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Old 02-23-2015, 06:26 PM
 
Location: London
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This is obviously a fantasy and would never happen (sigh!), but hypothetically if all countries agreed to mandate that people keep religion a private and personal matter, wouldn't there be a lot less drama in the world? Wouldn't there be more progress of science and civilization?

Of course, this would force people to be more honest about their real issues with others, but at least then it becomes a concrete, tangible matter that can be more easily negotiated, rather than a battle of subjective spiritual ideologies that are, nearly by definition, impossible or not intended to be proven.

I know it's a totalitarianish idea, but it might be the only way to bring about more peace in the world. People are still free to have their own religious beliefs, and houses of worship, but anything more public than that should be considered as inappropriate as advertising one's preferred sex positions.

It's just my fantasy, and I don't see any reasonable way for this to actually be implemented, but does anyone else feel this way from time to time?
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:40 PM
 
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Of course it would absolutely help the human race. Religion has been a terrible drag we put on ourselves for thousands of years now.
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Heck, I'd been happy if the US had kept true to its Constitution and kept church and state separate. This fight to win the right for same-sex marriage is an ugly reminder of the hold religion has had on this country. I can't imagine what this place would be like if we'd been a secular nation all along.

Hopefully we'll get there one of these days - it's not as bad as it used to be anyhow - thank goodness!
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:51 PM
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so you want to use violent force ( government) to prevent people from voluntarily practicing their religion and call the end result utopia?
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:58 PM
 
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"sigh" (I forgot to add the required "sigh" when dealing with stupidity)

UTOPIA: What if the entire world banned public practice/promotion of religion?

You would have TYRANNY.

The Left ALWAYS resorts to tyranny.

Another idiot, on another forum, suggested that, to create world peace, we should all just drop our own beliefs and convert to Islam. The ignorance runs strong among the left
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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This is obviously a fantasy and would never happen (sigh!), but hypothetically if all countries agreed to mandate that people keep religion a private and personal matter, wouldn't there be a lot less drama in the world? Wouldn't there be more progress of science and civilization?

Of course, this would force people to be more honest about their real issues with others, but at least then it becomes a concrete, tangible matter that can be more easily negotiated, rather than a battle of subjective spiritual ideologies that are, nearly by definition, impossible or not intended to be proven.

I know it's a totalitarianish idea, but it might be the only way to bring about more peace in the world. People are still free to have their own religious beliefs, and houses of worship, but anything more public than that should be considered as inappropriate as advertising one's preferred sex positions.

It's just my fantasy, and I don't see any reasonable way for this to actually be implemented, but does anyone else feel this way from time to time?
Thanks captain obvious.
So what ya gonna do when you see someone reading the Bible at the mall? What kind of peace are we talking here?
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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It wouldn't go over well.

The good news is that education does a lot more to undermine organized religion than the legal system or military ever could.

Old habits die hard and social circles and family ties keep these myths in circulation, but the more we develop our ability to think critically and the more we understand about the universe around us, the harder it is to cling to dogmatic belief. Atheism is currently spreading faster than any religion in history, and its rise mirrors the rise of literacy-- it's not a coincidence.

Clamping down on these things just makes people want to fight for them. It's better to simply show them how wrong they are.
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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The Left ALWAYS resorts to tyranny.

Another idiot, on another forum, suggested that, to create world peace, we should all just drop our own beliefs and convert to Islam. The ignorance runs strong among the left
ROFL...are you serious?

Here:

https://www.readingrainbow.com/
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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Thanks captain obvious.
So what ya gonna do when you see someone reading the Bible at the mall? What kind of peace are we talking here?
That's fine. It's the proselytizing, religion-motivated legislation and other means of pressuring others to change their spiritual beliefs that are destructive, imo.
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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Actually OP, this was tried in Quebec and it was extremely unpopular.

The Dangerous Logic of Quebec's 'Charter of Values' - The Atlantic

I used to think it would be a good idea... and then it actually happened and it really wasn't.
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