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Old 02-25-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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It's really sad that you don't understand science, and that the concern is for the present and the future, not the distant past.....In the past climate shifts were caused by natural processes, but today humans are overwhelming the natural carbon cycle.....

How Accurate Are Existing Computer Climate Modeling Techniques? | Union of Concerned Scientists
LMAO...SUUUUUURRRRREEEEE it is. Yeah let's forget the SCIENCE behind why it was warmer and why CO2 was higher back then. The models are a complete failure. NOTHING they claimed has come true. NOTHING!!!!
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Old 02-25-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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It's really sad that you don't understand science, and that the concern is for the present and the future, not the distant past.....In the past climate shifts were caused by natural processes, but today humans are overwhelming the natural carbon cycle.....

How Accurate Are Existing Computer Climate Modeling Techniques? | Union of Concerned Scientists
And yet the climate has been both colder and hotter than it is now. All because of those natural causes.You just want this to be different because you want to control the way people live there lives, not because it makes any scientific sense at all.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And yet the climate has been both colder and hotter than it is now. All because of those natural causes.You just want this to be different because you want to control the way people live there lives, not because it makes any scientific sense at all.
I want to control people? Seriously? Yes, the climate has been warmer and colder in the past, and it is getting warmer today, but not because of natural causes.....

CO2 concentrations haven't been this high in millions of years. Even more alarming is the rate of increase in the last five decades and the fact that CO2 stays in the atmosphere for hundreds or thousands of years. This milestone is a wake up call that our actions in response to climate change need to match the persistent rise in CO2. Climate change is a threat to life on Earth and we can no longer afford to be spectators.

– Dr. Erika Podest

Carbon and water cycle research scientist Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: NASA scientists react to 400 ppm carbon milestone

Residents of the remote Alaskan village of a Kivalina say they may be forced to relocate from their homes because of the effects of climate change. Climate change threatens to put Alaska village under the sea - Americas - World - The Independent

Atlantic sea levels north of New York rose 128mm (4 inches) in the two-year period 2009-10, a study has announced. The rise caused significant flooding as far south as Cape Hatteras in North Carolina.
Global warming: sea levels north of New York 'rise by record 128mm'

Australia's deserts will expand southward and dry periods will lengthen as global warming alters key tropical circulations, according to new research by US scientists. Global warming: Australian deserts to expand as tropical circulation changes
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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Who the hell cares what the climate was millions of years ago? What is your point other than to deflect this discussion?
LOL, I guess you didn't bother to read the post I replied to.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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And yet the climate has been both colder and hotter than it is now. All because of those natural causes.You just want this to be different because you want to control the way people live there lives, not because it makes any scientific sense at all.
The global climate change alarmists, have been at it a long time. In the 1970's they were getting us all worked up over global cooling, I mean the coming ice age. Well pardon me for not forgetting their rhetoric from back then and still being worried about an ICE AGE. So if they say that CO2 will pump up the climate to a higher temperature state then I'm all for it.

I didn't get the memo saying that the cure was still the same but the disease has changed.

Coming ice age, warmer temps, mutually exclusive.

It is the difference between weather and climate. So it is warmer for 3 or 4 decades, then it is cooler for 3 or 4 decades. What is the climate doing? Not the weather!!!
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:16 PM
 
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I want to control people? Seriously? Yes, the climate has been warmer and colder in the past, and it is getting warmer today, but not because of natural causes.....

CO2 concentrations haven't been this high in millions of years. Even more alarming is the rate of increase in the last five decades and the fact that CO2 stays in the atmosphere for hundreds or thousands of years. This milestone is a wake up call that our actions in response to climate change need to match the persistent rise in CO2. Climate change is a threat to life on Earth and we can no longer afford to be spectators.

– Dr. Erika Podest

Carbon and water cycle research scientist Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: NASA scientists react to 400 ppm carbon milestone

Residents of the remote Alaskan village of a Kivalina say they may be forced to relocate from their homes because of the effects of climate change. Climate change threatens to put Alaska village under the sea - Americas - World - The Independent

Atlantic sea levels north of New York rose 128mm (4 inches) in the two-year period 2009-10, a study has announced. The rise caused significant flooding as far south as Cape Hatteras in North Carolina.
Global warming: sea levels north of New York 'rise by record 128mm'

Australia's deserts will expand southward and dry periods will lengthen as global warming alters key tropical circulations, according to new research by US scientists. Global warming: Australian deserts to expand as tropical circulation changes
You have no idea what the causes are
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Sexual harassment is a cool story?
It depends on how he "weathered" it. Did he come in from out of "the storm"?
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:21 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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For a neutral exposition on the climate change debate, please see the series of videos at the following link:

PSA: Science Journalist Outlines the Climate Debate - Democratic Underground
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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For a neutral exposition on the climate change debate, please see the series of videos at the following link:

PSA: Science Journalist Outlines the Climate Debate - Democratic Underground
Democratic Underground??? No thanks. Pure propaganda.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:35 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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Democratic Underground??? No thanks. Pure propaganda.
They're videos that originate on YouTube...I just organized them for easier viewing and posted them there. Just go ahead and click...you're not going to catch cooties.
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