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You are sadly mistaken. republicans struggle to gain the immigrant vote, and they'll definitely lose it this year due to their fighting the administration on current immigration rulings..
Immigrants can't vote! So what are you talking about? Obama has no right to stop the enforcement of our immigration laws and it isn't in the best interests of the American people to add 5 million people to our population temporarily or permanently to compete for jobs, wages and resources especially since they violated our immigration laws. Since when is any group above those laws anyway and should be rewarded for breaking them? What you are talking about is a citizen group blackmailing our politicians for votes by asking them to thumb their noses at our immigration laws for their illegal amigos. Such arrogance!
Immigrants can't vote! So what are you talking about? Obama has no right to stop the enforcement of our immigration laws and it isn't in the best interests of the American people to add 5 million people to our population temporarily or permanently to compete for jobs, wages and resources especially since they violated our immigration laws. Since when is any group above those laws anyway and should be rewarded for breaking them? What you are talking about is a group blackmailing our politicians for votes by asking them to thumb their noses at our immigration laws. Such arrogance!
Referring to those who immigrated, naturalized and became citizens.... Fact is businesses benefit greatly from the illegal labor market. Those immigrants who are now citizens understand the position most with illegal status are in. And regardless of what you think, many immigrants attempting to naturalize have been stuck in limbo due to draconian immigration laws. They're good enough to come here, work and be exploited but not granted citizenship and allowed to pay into our tax system? Currently they dont and immigration to the US wont magically stop. Republicans have lost a significant number of votes this year and will more than likely lose the election.
Actually, using taxes for what their suppose to be used for...education, infrastructure, access to information for ALL would stabilize wages for many and force more competition. You can't trounce someones ability to learn if the faculties themselves are inadequate. This is America's problem, not lazy entitled welfare recipients. How are the children responsible for what their parents lack? Make school compulsory, year round and actually teach instead of attempting to inflate statistics through constant testing.
We don't use taxes for education, we use it to build fancy school houses and fund fancy extra curricular activities. They are glorified daycare centers with little useful knowledge exchange happening. Throwing more money doesn't improve outcomes, its a black hole. We would get more bang for our (far less) buck by busing children between their teachers homes and letting them learn there. And by paying the best and brightest 100-200k a year to teach, then holding them accountable for outcomes.
This is what was said by another poster - "Immigrants overwhelmingly vote Democrat". Where did they say anything about them becoming citizens and then voting?
I understand that it might be scary to see a bunch of immigrants who are outperforming your own little snowflakes, but instead of trying to ban the smarter ones, why don't you encourage yours to work harder?
What's with the snowflake remark? Is this your attempt at racist humor against whites? FYI, citizens come in all colors. Or are you just demonizing the white kind? I have no problem with legal immigrants but there is no evidence that they are superior workers to our own citizens. Illegal aliens don't belong here at all whether they work hard or not. Take your anti-American hatred somewhere else.
Referring to those who immigrated, naturalized and became citizens.... Fact is businesses benefit greatly from the illegal labor market. Those immigrants who are now citizens understand the position most with illegal status are in. And regardless of what you think, many immigrants attempting to naturalize have been stuck in limbo due to draconian immigration laws. They're good enough to come here, work and be exploited but not granted citizenship and allowed to pay into our tax system? Currently they dont and immigration to the US wont magically stop. Republicans have lost a significant number of votes this year and will more than likely lose the election.
Then why don't you be more clear in your remarks? Citizens are no longer immigrants. Yeah, we are all aware of the greedy employers who hire illegal aliens to fatten their wallets thru them by working for less while the U.S. taxpayer gets stuck with their social costs, loss of jobs and reduced wages. Not to mention our overcrowded schools, jails and hospitals and if they have a U.S. born kid they can tap into our welfare coffers also. And you're ok with that? Most legal immigrants that I know of object to illegal immigration because they snuck in and didn't pay their dues like they did. There is nothing draconian about our immigration laws. We allow in the number of legal immigrants that we can provide jobs and resources for. That's why we have annual quotas. What's draconian about that? The problem is that there are 2 billion impoverished, uneducated and unskilled across the world and we cannot allow them all to come here as we would be committing national suicide.
They are exploited by greedy employers not regular law abiding Americans. No one dragged them over the border either. They allowed themselves to be exploited. Were they forced to work here? Or did they make that unlawful decision themselves? If Americans got their jobs back from these illegal aliens they in turn would be paying income taxes into the system. So you were sayin? No one is asking legal "immigration" to the U.S. to stop in reasonable numbers. This is about illegal immigration. Learn to know the difference!
So you are saying that if the GOP doesn't thumb their noses at our immigration laws they will have fewer votes? What kind of voters would expect that from our politicians especially when illegal immigration and amnesty is harmful to our own citizens?
What's with the snowflake remark? Is this your attempt at racist humor against whites? FYI, citizens come in all colors. Or are you just demonizing the white kind? I have no problem with legal immigrants but there is no evidence that they are superior workers to our own citizens. Illegal aliens don't belong here at all whether they work hard or not. Take your anti-American hatred somewhere else.
Snowflake as in "unique and special". You said they were taking up all the spots at the college, so clearly they were superior candidates to the kids who did not make the cut. I was not talking about illegal aliens, but about the Chinese students at universities, the ones who are apparently 'invading america'.
I understand that it might be scary to see a bunch of immigrants who are outperforming your own little snowflakes, but instead of trying to ban the smarter ones, why don't you encourage yours to work harder?
Because liberalism today does not believe in work ethic. They believe that the game is rigged and people should be awarded things without showing evidence of trying. So you wonder why immigrants perform so much better. It's because of years of post 1960s liberal policies and principles.
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. Fact is businesses benefit greatly from the illegal labor market. Those immigrants who are now citizens understand the position most with illegal status are in. And regardless of what you think, many immigrants attempting to naturalize have been stuck in limbo due to draconian immigration laws. They're good enough to come here, work and be exploited but not granted citizenship and allowed to pay into our tax system? Currently they dont and immigration to the US wont magically stop. Republicans have lost a significant number of votes this year and will more than likely lose the election.
