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Not likely. An anti-Zionist named Henry Clifford claimed BenGurion said that to him, but only revealed it after Ben-Gurion died. So no way to prove it and most likely complete BS. There is no other record of that statement anywhere.
It's a favorite quote on antisemetic websites which state it as fact, not unlike what you did here.
Who cares whether he said it or not, it's a basic fact of life - the statement is truth.
Who cares whether he said it or not, it's a basic fact of life - the statement is truth.
Well, if he were looking at it from their (Palestinian) perspective it would be true. The Jews reclaiming thier land would be like Native American tribes reclaiming thier land: It was theirs first. If the Palestinians that lived in Israel dated back 2000 years they would be Jewish anyway.
Who cares whether he said it or not, it's a basic fact of life - the statement is truth.
In what way? Keep in mind that the Jews didn't expel the Arabs. They left to facilitate the impeding invasion by surrounding Arab countries in 1948. The Jews just didn't let them back in after they won the war, nor should they have.
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
David Ben-Gurion quote
They don't have to accept it, but they're not going to change it.
It's a done deal -- like white Europeans taking the Americas from the natives, and like the U.S. taking the southwest from Mexico.
I invite any white U.S. citizen to leave the U.S. if that will make him or her feel better. The Israel critics in this country never accept my invitation.
In other words, they operate on the basis of a double-standard (Jews can't settle, but they can) that is purely anti-semitic.
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That's because the questions are not germane to the issue.
The real question is "Why do the Israeli's continue to build fortified settlements in the west bank when the entire world community and the UN Security Council condemns the action as being the largest impediment to a lasting peace in the middle east and a blatant violation of international law."
I know the answer and have stated it more than once in this thread but you all just ignore it.
Stop deflecting and answer that question, because it is at the heart of the matter. Not the fact that the Arabs chose not to form a state prior to 1967.
There is no need to pay any attention to the anti-American UN or a "world community" of mostly backward nations.
We should stop supporting the UN. It is a failure.
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The Obama administration, after spending six years undermining Israel and many of our western allies, expressed displeaseure with Netanyahu meeting with members of Congress.
Netanyahu obviously knows the Obama admin is powerless in its last two years and is seeking to restore relationships with the US, which have been diminished under Obama.
Now what in the hell did Obama expect? Although anti-semiticism is rife in the Obama administration, many other Americans and political leaders( aghast at Obama's anti Judao/Christian, pro Muslim stance) have demonstrated that such nonsense will not continue.
Good for Netanyahu!
I would like to start off by saying: I support Israel, but with that being said, this visit could be productive if both leaders were to want to see each other. PM Netanyahu seeks to lecture the U.S. or specifically President Obama on what we should do only because they live in a dangerous part of the world, it's like the Iceland sending a convoy to Yemen on how to deal with snow. Yes, Israel and the U.S. have similar interest in certain regards, but to follow anyone (or in this case, an entire country) blindly into a dark room is foolish.
I wonder how Bibi would feel if the Knesset invited Obama to speak; for a fact, Conservatives here in the US would say it's out of spite and that Obama has no place in telling Israel what they can do nor does he have the right to lecture. By the way, I know someone will attempt to paint me as anti-Semetic or an Obama lover, I'm a guy that favors logic, I support Obama on some issues, and disapprove on others. I'm not saying we should strain ties any further with Israel, but to question what is truly best for us is definitely a consideration.
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
David Ben-Gurion quote
Wikiquote tags your quote "questionable, from an unverified source."
Who cares whether he said it or not, it's a basic fact of life - the statement is truth.
It's not true because it never was the Palestinians' country. It was inhabited by different tribes, with the Jews being there for as long as anyone can remember.
Well, if he were looking at it from their (Palestinian) perspective it would be true. The Jews reclaiming thier land would be like Native American tribes reclaiming thier land: It was theirs first. If the Palestinians that lived in Israel dated back 2000 years they would be Jewish anyway.
I would like to start off by saying: I support Israel, but with that being said, this visit could be productive if both leaders were to want to see each other. PM Netanyahu seeks to lecture the U.S. or specifically President Obama on what we should do only because they live in a dangerous part of the world, it's like the Iceland sending a convoy to Yemen on how to deal with snow. Yes, Israel and the U.S. have similar interest in certain regards, but to follow anyone (or in this case, an entire country) blindly into a dark room is foolish.
I wonder how Bibi would feel if the Knesset invited Obama to speak; for a fact, Conservatives here in the US would say it's out of spite and that Obama has no place in telling Israel what they can do nor does he have the right to lecture. By the way, I know someone will attempt to paint me as anti-Semetic or an Obama lover, I'm a guy that favors logic, I support Obama on some issues, and disapprove on others. I'm not saying we should strain ties any further with Israel, but to question what is truly best for us is definitely a consideration.
I think Boehner stepped out of place inviting Bibi to the U.S. I also believe Obama would like to take an a opportunity to take a stab at Bibi's political career during elections. This is not going to change much between the two countries relations.
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. If the Palestinians that lived in Israel dated back 2000 years they would be Jewish anyway.
