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No and it doesn't prevent her from selling flowers to gays...which she did to this very customer for over 9 years. The issue here is that her faith informs her that homosexuality is a sin and therefore, creating floral arrangements in celebration of homosexuality goes against her faith.
I am very proud of Barronelle. I have donated to her defense fund and respect her for standing strong on her faith and principles!!
I agree .She was not discriminating against a 'gay' person pe se ,but the fact of being asked
to celebrate in public, that which is against 'natural', and 'higher law .
EXACTLY. That is the entire point. The florist would have been participating in an event that celebrates homosexuality because a gay "marriage" is consummated by the act of homosexuality...which is a sin according to this woman's Christian faith. Forcing her to participate is the STATE denying her the free exercise of her religion NOT to "support" the act of homosexuality.
It was the STATE that brought the action, not the customers. Also, if the woman is a devout Christian, I am sure that lying would be in conflict with her faith as well. So lying to her long time customer would be way more hypocritical than honestly expressing her reason for not being able to participate in their event.
I love how progressives are more than happy to urge people to lie, instead of supporting people's right to be honest without the fear of their livelihood being destroyed by force of the STATE.
George Orwell was SOOO prescient.
Yes there was a 'progressive movement' in Germany before the war ,led by the same kind of people.
Hetero's that engage in homosexuality?? Do heterosexuals engage florists to participate in ceremonies celebrating homosexual acts? I have never heard of that.
I am not sure how your question relates to the facts of this case.
Hetero's that engage in homosexuality?? Do heterosexuals engage florists to participate in ceremonies celebrating homosexual acts? I have never heard of that.
I am not sure how your question relates to the facts of this case.
you said she objected to it based on her belief that homosexuality is a sin. FYI what about the sins of hetros? many engage in the same type of sexual activity gay people do. should she ask each straight couple wanting a wedding cake if they engage in this kind of "sin"? what about other sins that hetros do that is against her religious beliefs? adultery, lying, stealing and the like?
She was not asked to even attend the event much less participate in it. Her job is done BEFORE the event even starts.
Arrange flowers, and possibly deliver them. That is the extent of the job. She does not have to walk anyone down the aisle, or read the vows, or officiate, or sign the license, or say "I do".
It's like saying that by selling a steak I am participating in a cook out. No, I am selling a steak.
She spends time with the couple, she uses her creativity to express what the couple wants the flowers to reflect as part of the entire event. Her business is represented as part of a ceremony celebrating homosexuality. You have never attended any event or visited a friend and enquired as to who did the flowers or what florist they used for the beautiful arrangement? Her business (and she by extension) is indeed an integral part of the ceremony.
She was not selling flowers to the customer, she would be participating more broadly.
You can sell the steak or you can cater the event. That is the difference.
YOU claimed that "marriage requires consummation to be legitimate."
I showed that a marriage is considered valid by the state the minute the license is filed. If no one says anything about consummation the government will not revoke the marriage based on consummation, or lack thereof, as the government has no way of knowing if the marriage was consummated.
I can get married and never have sex, my marriage will still be valid according to the government.
So you are incapable of admitting a fact that is right there in front of you, huh? Why are you afraid to concede that lack of consummation is grounds for an annulment.
I didn't ask you about "what the government knows." I asked you if you to confirm or deny your understanding that failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.
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