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Old 02-26-2015, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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This. The Communications Act of 1934 exists to give the FCC a purpose and the FFC exists to give the Communications Act of 1934 any meaning whatsoever.

Broadband data transmissions have rendered the entire "last mile of copper, public utility" concept moot. This is nothing but a power grab for Leviathan, will create massive barriers to competition in the ISP space, will result in new taxes and fees for every user of the Internet. and of course, will slow down the Internet with new and improved government sludge in all the pipes.

And it "solved" a problem that didn't exist, at least not a new problem, because paying more for faster speeds has been around as long as the Internet. Dialup->ISDN->T1->T3 blah blah. You've always had to pay more to get more. There's a reason download manager apps exist, and that's to let you pay a fee (for licensed versions) to download things faster. The Internet community has been solving speed issues daily for over 20 years, all without the gentle, tender mercies of Leviathan's meddling.

No no, the government just found a good marketing ploy that let them finally get their grubbies on the last cash cow out there they haven't hooked up to the milking machine. You know that Internet purchase tax you're asked to voluntarily declare? Yeah, look for that to be a lot less voluntary and a lot more mandatory now that Leviathan ostensibly owns the pipes.

And what's funny is that this all goes back to Verizon, who was doing something only government protection of the last half mile of copper allowed them to do, because that last half mile of copper is a huge barrier to the competition that should have and would have risen up to slap Verizon in their pee pee for blocking Netflix. Leviathan fixing something Leviathan broke, and as always, the citizen will take it in the shorts.

Well said. Most consumers don't have a f'in clue what it will cost to solve those last mile/first mile issues in rural America. Most facilities in those rural towns have little traffic, are owned by a local ILEC, and will change NOTHING once these facilities are in place.

There's a REASON carriers haven't pulled fiber to these towns. There's NO need. Now, those same folks who rely on all those Universal Access Funds will DEMAND even more to cover the anticipated costs to cover.

This coupled with the Government's never ending quest to steal, er seal, more revenue will put this entirely into perspective in about 15 months.

Net net? Costs will go up, service will change little, if any, and the taxes will be added to bloat your bills even higher. Happy now?
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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Your rates are going to steadily climb to pay for all the infrastructure improvements to REACH net neutrality so the carriers will have a field day, second only to the government buffet of taxes to be added?

Just sayin'.....
- total fiction. Thanks for sharing, but lets focus on non-fiction items here


Net Neutrality was the standard before verizon forced FCC hand. . .there is no additional cost for "net neutrality" versus what is being done today.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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Of course they will do it. It is not clear what but there are a number of things...and they do throttle usage now in some places. Check out the data stuff on the cell phone networks. Early you could get unlimited data. Now that the networks have gotten faster that is no longer available and you have to pay for data usage.

And they may well bill the sender rather than the receiver...Netflix gets charged a premium for higher and better service at the expense of the small site.

Earlier technology did not allow all this but the capability grows to enable all sorts of priorities and sorting.
If I have speeds available in my area of 15, and I pay for 3, they SHOULD be throttling my connection to limit me at 3.. Why do you think I should get 15 speeds at 3 cost while everyone else is paying for 15?
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Harbor Springs, Michigan
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The problem is we've heard it all before, remember how much we were going to save on health insurance ??

The Dems haven't got the greatest of track records when it comes to telling the truth, so for now we will just sit back and wait and watch ....
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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It probably never will be knowing this admin.
Huh? For it to go into effect, it has to be published in the federal register.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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- total fiction. Thanks for sharing, but lets focus on non-fiction items here

Net Neutrality was the standard before verizon forced FCC hand. . .there is no additional cost for "net neutrality" versus what is being done today.
you dont think complying with governmental "standards" has costs?

How can you state this "fiction", without even knowing whats in store?
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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I'm positive that you don't understand the ruling since the contents of the ruling haven't even been released publicly yet.
The proposed rule was released publicly nearly a year ago.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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oooh liberal fear mongering never ends.. does it?
It hasn't happened because the FCC had common carrier net neutrality rules but those were legally contested last year. Based on the court decision, under current US law the FCC has to classify ISP's as common carriers under Title II in order to enforce net neutrality.

You haven't been denied access to sites, or had to pay extra for access to sites because it was against FCC rules until very recently.

It took all of two seconds to search why the FCC had to make this decision, but here we are with pages and pages or impotent rage against... something.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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Link to the 332 pages of new regs. Thanks. Here's hint number 2..THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MADE PUBLIC!
332 pages of new regulations? What are you talking about????

The proposed regulation was 750 words, or approximately 1 page. The final regulation will be roughly the same length (if not the same exact 750 words).
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I would fight legislation which accuses one of doing things they arent doing, wouldnt you?


If they are not doing it, and don't plan to do it in the future, then why are they fighting the regulations?

Hmmm???
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