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Old 03-01-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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If the ACA isn't working, why did the uninsured rate go from 17.1 % to 12.99 %

In U.S., Uninsured Rate Sinks to 12.9%
From your own link, in 2009, people who were insured was at 14.4% and now it's at 12.9% why did it spike between 2009 and 2014?
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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If the ACA isn't working, why did the uninsured rate go from 17.1 % to 12.99 %

In U.S., Uninsured Rate Sinks to 12.9%
And it would drop even further if all the red states would expand Medicaid. Politics is much more important than the health of their constituents for these GOP governors.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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What is your definition of done OK?

Your last sentence can go for everyone who cannot afford insurance....
Doing ok varies for everyone as you well know.

Reread the 2nd paragraph that I posted.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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From your own link, in 2009, people who were insured was at 14.4% and now it's at 12.9% why did it spike between 2009 and 2014?

My guess would be due to the economic shedding of jobs. If you look at the end of 08 until 2010 Q1 (before the ACA became law) the uninsured rate rose about 2%. As well, more and more jobs are no longer offering health benefits (a trend long before the ACA) and with the competition of jobs occurring after the recession, I would imagine employers felt they could get employees w out offering health benefits.

As well, I would imagine that the uninsured rate would drop quite a bit if red states expanded Medicaid, which would get close to an additional 5 millions people covered.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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Good for you.

4 years ago, I was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at the age of 23. 6 months before my diagnosis, I was unemployed and tried to get insurance on my own and was DENIED at the age of 22 due to fairly minor preexisting conditions. Luckily, I had been employed for 4 months before my diagnosis in a career where insurance is offered from day 1. Luckily, I did not lose my job as a result of my diagnosis as many friends in the young adult cancer community have.

If I was denied health insurance at 22 years old due to prexisting conditions including treatment for depression following a rape, bladder issues that had been resolved 10 years previously, and PCOS, how on earth do you think I would find insurance on the private market with a cancer history and life-long health impacts as a result of treatment? The ACA takes away that concern in case I lose my job or want to start my own business.

To date, my insurance has been billed almost 600K. That is more than I have made in my entire life. I am expected to live out a normal lifespan (so another 60 years, give or take) but will need medical care for my lungs and heart for the rest of my life.

It could happen to you, too.

I am glad to hear your story. I wish more people would understand this kind of stuff can happen to them no matter how unlikely it would happen and that healthcare is the only basic human need that can not be self administered in many cases. I never though I would get a tumor either, considering my healthy life style.

For my hospital stay alone, my insurance was billed $160K. That doesn't include the neurosurgeon or anesthesiologist cost nor the radiation therapy that I had to go through.

I truly hope that the PPACA can be strengthened and the true goal of universal healthcare can be accomplished in this country.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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Doing ok varies for everyone as you well know.

Reread the 2nd paragraph that I posted.
Yep...that's my point....
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Yep...that's my point....
You have no point. Just argument.
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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Its a state by state issue. In my state I could also have picked up high risk coverage for my wife at $2600 per-month for 10 months before she could start using it. And even then co-pays and deductibles applied. This was before the ACA. (she was denied coverage from everyone).
Co-pays and deductibles are still with us. In my particular case, they are higher than before Obamacare.

If you saw my earlier post, in some cases they are downright unaffordable.
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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ACA is not insurance. It doesn't sell insurance.
Well perhaps BO shouldn't have been making promises regarding his signature legislation about matters that it didn't involve. Nor should Democrats have supported it if the President was putting out such misleading and false information.
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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Americans are a cold hearted lot... smh.
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