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Old 03-01-2015, 01:11 AM
 
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But everyone knows that is always a wasted vote, much the same as not voting at all.
Pure nonsense. 3rd party voting sure made a hell of a difference in the 2000 election. (and many more before that)

It's not a wasted vote at all. What is a waste is to vote for a status quo Democrat & Republican expecting them to change or for them to change things.

  • I refuse to vote for another Clinton
  • I refuse to vote for another Bush.

 
Old 03-01-2015, 01:24 AM
 
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Pure nonsense. 3rd party voting sure made a hell of a difference in the 2000 election. (and many more before that)

It's not a wasted vote at all. What is a waste is to vote for a status quo Democrat & Republican expecting them to change or for them to change things.

  • I refuse to vote for another Clinton
  • I refuse to vote for another Bush.
How did it make a difference when they never have won? That Bush or Clinton won, proving that votes for the 3rd party were all for nothing. No one cared that so and so finished in 3rd.
 
Old 03-01-2015, 02:30 AM
 
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Default Survey: Dems Much More Likely To Talk About Their Guns

A new poll reveals that Democrats are far more likely to be willing to talk about their guns than Republicans or independents.

The new poll from The O’Leary Report and WND, done by Zogby Analytics, reports that 68 percent of Democrats who responded said they would respond truthfully to a national pollster asking them personal questions about gun ownership.

For independents, only 49 percent would follow that path, and the GOP generated an even lower level of cooperation to such questions, with only 44 percent agreeing to respond to those questions.

Survey: Dems much more likely to talk about their guns

When asked "said that they would respond "truthfully" to a pollster asking them about THEIR gun ownership" Ummm, sorry WHAT!?!? Am I the only one that sees a little something wrong with this?
 
Old 03-01-2015, 04:33 AM
 
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Default Venezuela To Impose Mandatory Visas on Americans

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said on Saturday his government had detained U.S. citizens, including a pilot, on suspicion of espionage, in a move likely to strain already tense relations between Washington and Caracas.

Maduro also said his government would order a reduction in the number of U.S. embassy staff in Caracas and prohibit some U.S. officials from entering Venezuela in retaliation for a similar U.S. measure last year. Venezuela would also require U.S. citizens to obtain visas before visiting, he told a rally.

Maduro says Venezuela detains U.S. citizens; announces moves against U.S.


Another Obama Success story! No matter what Kerry say's. Obama has made the whole world not very friendly place for a once great nation! How did we miss that? What do you think, will Venezuela turn into anti-american country?
 
Old 03-01-2015, 07:13 AM
 
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When were they pro-American?
 
Old 03-01-2015, 07:21 AM
 
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CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said on Saturday his government had detained U.S. citizens, including a pilot, on suspicion of espionage, in a move likely to strain already tense relations between Washington and Caracas.

Maduro also said his government would order a reduction in the number of U.S. embassy staff in Caracas and prohibit some U.S. officials from entering Venezuela in retaliation for a similar U.S. measure last year. Venezuela would also require U.S. citizens to obtain visas before visiting, he told a rally.

Maduro says Venezuela detains U.S. citizens; announces moves against U.S.

Another Obama Success story! No matter what Kerry say's. Obama has made the whole world not very friendly place for a once great nation! How did we miss that? What do you think, will Venezuela turn into anti-american country?
Stop embarrassing yourself.

Venezuela has been rather loudly anti-American since Hugo Chavez became President in 1999.

The Bush Administration barely concealed its glee at the 2002 Venezuelan coup, which ended up failing. The American media at the time didn't bother to hide its delight, for it initially looked like the ruling United Socialist Party would be overthrown.

Now, in response to your laughably pathetic claim that President Obama has spoiled relations with Venezuela - in 2008 (Who was the U.S. President then? Hint - it wasn't Obama.) Venezuela broke off diplomatic relations with the United States.

This is a story about domestic Venezuelan politics (yes, it is - pay attention), not about your petty partisan insistence on making everything about politicians you don't like.
 
Old 03-01-2015, 07:40 PM
 
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LOL, I am going to pump-up my life raft and point in towards Venezuela!!!!!!

Do Americans actually go on vacation, visit, work in that country?????? Hi, I got a job in a North Korea'ish country, YAY!
 
Old 03-01-2015, 07:42 PM
 
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I get the very strong impression that MOST conservative are not too hot on Jeb and they will either stay home or vote for anyone else.

I also get the strong impression that Progressives are not too hot on Hillary....but they WILL pull the lever to put her in the WH, if she gets the nod!
 
Old 03-01-2015, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Seems reasonable, The United States requires a visa for Venezuelan citizens.
 
Old 03-01-2015, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Pure nonsense. 3rd party voting sure made a hell of a difference in the 2000 election. (and many more before that)

It's not a wasted vote at all. What is a waste is to vote for a status quo Democrat & Republican expecting them to change or for them to change things.

  • I refuse to vote for another Clinton
  • I refuse to vote for another Bush.
Same here. When I look at presidential candidates 2016, I get scared.
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