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Old 03-11-2015, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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There is nothing to repeal , you are way off track do some more reading........
Yes, there is. You're the one who should do some more reading. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...house-bill/191

The president has authorized and directed, whether in writing or not, various officials to undertake certain steps in accordance with his executive amnesty program. The "repeal" refers to formally de-authorizing such authorization/directives. Get a grip.

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Old 03-11-2015, 12:43 AM
 
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You are predictable , you are a Righty, I am a Liberal, and proud of it. The Pres. Is not breaking the law, and as far as the Constitution , there are a lot of ways to read into what you want . You know that , . we all know how the far right interprets , but , they are just wrong. You are one of them, right ? It's just like religion , every bible nut has his own way, and, of coarse it's always the right way. I know my history and Gov. Better than you think, you have no idea what you are buying into, someday you will learn , then , maybe never !
Okay, when you're ready, actually respond to my points.
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Yes, there is. You're the one who should do some more reading. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...house-bill/191

The president has authorized and directed, whether in writing or not, various officials to undertake certain steps in accordance with his executive amnesty program. The "repeal" refers to formally de-authorizing such authorization/directives. Get a grip.
What the righties should be doing is , instead of trying to block Executive directives, is come up with constructive ways to address the Immigration problem, what's the fix ? It's time for this bunch of jerks to offer ideas that can be supported bipartisan . Just saying no to everything the President wants to do is no way to represent the people of the United States. You may not like our President, but He is OUR President., the one elected twice by the People. Repeal , just say no , negative remarks , uncooperative actions, do not help anyone. And , the issue of immigration is being looked at by the justice branch. Let's hear more from that side before trying to block something just for politics.
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Old 03-11-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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What the righties should be doing is , instead of trying to block Executive directives, is come up with constructive ways to address the Immigration problem, what's the fix ? It's time for this bunch of jerks to offer ideas that can be supported bipartisan . Just saying no to everything the President wants to do is no way to represent the people of the United States. You may not like our President, but He is OUR President., the one elected twice by the People. Repeal , just say no , negative remarks , uncooperative actions, do not help anyone. And , the issue of immigration is being looked at by the justice branch. Let's hear more from that side before trying to block something just for politics.
Exactly. But after their failed attempt to slip something through attached to a vital spending bill, the Republicans have declared they are finished with any attempts to work on immigration. Sorry, all you dupes who believed them when they swore that immigration was number one on their agenda and it would absolutely be addressed while they were courting your votes last November. They sure took defeat easily and moved right along.

Are you Republicans feeling used? You should.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:01 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Exactly. But after their failed attempt to slip something through attached to a vital spending bill, the Republicans have declared they are finished with any attempts to work on immigration. Sorry, all you dupes who believed them when they swore that immigration was number one on their agenda and it would absolutely be addressed while they were courting your votes last November. They sure took defeat easily and moved right along.

Are you Republicans feeling used? You should.
I agree,....that too !!
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:37 PM
 
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What the righties should be doing is , instead of trying to block Executive directives, is come up with constructive ways to address the Immigration problem, what's the fix ? It's time for this bunch of jerks to offer ideas that can be supported bipartisan . Just saying no to everything the President wants to do is no way to represent the people of the United States. You may not like our President, but He is OUR President., the one elected twice by the People. Repeal , just say no , negative remarks , uncooperative actions, do not help anyone. And , the issue of immigration is being looked at by the justice branch. Let's hear more from that side before trying to block something just for politics.
The position of most conservatives I know is that we do not need to "fix" our immigration system, we simply need to enforce the law as it already exists.

Accordingly, there is no reason for the "righties" to come up with "constructive ways" to change the system.

That's just another way of demanding that they support amnesty and more illegal immigration.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:39 PM
 
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...Sorry, all you dupes who believed them when they swore that immigration was number one on their agenda and it would absolutely be addressed while they were courting your votes last November. They sure took defeat easily and moved right along.

Are you Republicans feeling used? You should.
You are right that the Republican leadership has been caving to the Democrats in a way that is truly despicable.

They might as well be Democrats themselves.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:29 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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The position of most conservatives I know is that we do not need to "fix" our immigration system, we simply need to enforce the law as it already exists.

Accordingly, there is no reason for the "righties" to come up with "constructive ways" to change the system.

That's just another way of demanding that they support amnesty and more illegal immigration.
The biggie is " enforce" . There had been little ( few) ideas from the Republican side as to how that will work .if you think under Obama that the borders are not being defended,illegal entry is lax , etc. that's not so. It is the other way around., one more reason to address what to do with millions of people .
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:24 AM
 
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The biggie is " enforce" . There had been little ( few) ideas from the Republican side as to how that will work .if you think under Obama that the borders are not being defended,illegal entry is lax , etc. that's not so. It is the other way around., one more reason to address what to do with millions of people .
Do whatever it takes.

We arrest, transport and jail millions of legal U.S. citizens every year in this country.

There is no reason why we can't -- over time -- secure the border and find, arrest and deport millions of illegal aliens.

Right now, the border patrol is not allowed to enforce the law in the interior of the country (more than 50 miles or so from the border.)

It is required to release OTMs (other-than-Mexicans.)

In the case of the children and families from Central America who recently flooded over the border, they were released after being given a piece of paper telling them to show up for a hearing. Of course, the great majority never showed up, and no one knows (or cares to find out) where they are now.

In other words, we as a nation are not even trying to enforce our immigration laws.

Let's start there.

And then move on to mandatory e-verify; mandatory sharing of claimed social security numbers between employers, the IRS and the border patrol; getting rid of sanctuary city laws and requiring local police and state authorities to work with ICE; building more detention centers and hiring more officers; sending the military to secure the southern border, making it a felony to harbor an illegal alien, etc.

Showing that we were tough on enforcement would actually allow us to save money in the long run, because fewer illegals would try to cross our border and stay here.

And with fewer illegals doing work Americans "won't do", we could save money by cutting able-bodied U.S. citizens off of welfare to do those jobs and pay taxes into the bargain.

U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions (R. Alabama) has made many good suggestions for enforcement.

But you wouldn't know that because you haven't looked into it.

So on what basis do you claim Republicans lack ideas?

On no basis at all.

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Old 03-17-2015, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb If you were the Speaker of the House, how would you handle Obama's Executive Amnesty?

Boner will do whatever the big tobacco execs (who own him) tell him to do.
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