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Old 03-01-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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IUDs in HS. There is a solution that is not permanent.
Mandatory or optional?
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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You all realize that these drop boxes are a reaction to a problem, not a solution.
That's all we ever do though is "react" to problems, never try to solve them.
People have tried to solve some of the problem and other people thwart them at every turn.

Women's' health facilities have been closed all over the country, ironically, most often in those states with the highest percentages of poor and lower-income women and those with the highest rates of (repeat) teen pregnancies.

Companies don't want to offer birth control coverage, even for those women willing and able to pay for their own insurance policies.

Many school boards and parents do not want schools to teach sex-ed beyond abstinence despite many studies that prove that education has reduced teen pregnancy rates and does encourage teens to wait before becoming sexually active.

In Colorado alone, a state-subsidized program reduced teen pregnancy rates many-fold by providing long-acting contraception and newly elected GOP legislators are already trying to gut the program.

The fact is that there are many proven solutions but for political and other reasons too many people are content with the status quo and are actively trying to maintain/exacerbate it.

What solutions are there for this reality?

Study: Poor women have 5 times more unplanned births than more affluent women - Salon.com
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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People have tried to solve some of the problem and other people thwart them at every turn.

Women's' health facilities have been closed all over the country, ironically, most often in those states with the highest percentages of poor and lower-income women and those with the highest rates of (repeat) teen pregnancies.

Companies don't want to offer birth control coverage, even for those women willing and able to pay for their own insurance policies.

Many school boards and parents do not want schools to teach sex-ed beyond abstinence despite many studies that prove that education has reduced teen pregnancy rates and does encourage teens to wait before becoming sexually active.

In Colorado alone, a state-subsidized program reduced teen pregnancy rates many-fold by providing long-acting contraception and newly elected GOP legislators are already trying to gut the program.

The fact is that there are many proven solutions but for political and other reasons too many people are content with the status quo and are actively trying to maintain/exacerbate it.

What solutions are there for this reality?

Study: Poor women have 5 times more unplanned births than more affluent women - Salon.com
Birth control is the proven "solution". Everything else is the reaction to the non use of birth control.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Any chance we can get larger boxes so we can dump our unwanted teens?
Good idea! To be followed shortly by boxes where we can ditch our unwanted relatives.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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People have tried to solve some of the problem and other people thwart them at every turn.

Women's' health facilities have been closed all over the country, ironically, most often in those states with the highest percentages of poor and lower-income women and those with the highest rates of (repeat) teen pregnancies.

Companies don't want to offer birth control coverage, even for those women willing and able to pay for their own insurance policies.

Many school boards and parents do not want schools to teach sex-ed beyond abstinence despite many studies that prove that education has reduced teen pregnancy rates and does encourage teens to wait before becoming sexually active.

In Colorado alone, a state-subsidized program reduced teen pregnancy rates many-fold by providing long-acting contraception and newly elected GOP legislators are already trying to gut the program.

The fact is that there are many proven solutions but for political and other reasons too many people are content with the status quo and are actively trying to maintain/exacerbate it.

What solutions are there for this reality?

Study: Poor women have 5 times more unplanned births than more affluent women - Salon.com

5 times more unwanted births because they are hopelessly irresponsible. This might just be a time when the government intervenes and it actually benefits people instead of just allowing them to reproduce and suck more out of the system.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Mandatory or optional?
In NYC it is optional and it is working.
Students can also get Plan B pills in school.

NYC has tranformed the nurse's office in public schools to full healthcare facilities with screening and testing to performing IUD insertions.

They started this a couple of years ago and the numbers show it's working.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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From what I read, it is not as simple as just inserting an IUD and forgetting about it. And, there can be serious complications: Dr. Manny: Why I would never recommend an IUD for my teenage daughter | Fox News

I still don't see the problem with the baby drop boxes as this will be for your most desperate birth mothers who realize they can't or don't want to take care of the baby. It is OK if they abort the baby but wrong if they choose life for the baby but can't or don't want to parent it? It also gives someone the time to think about whether they will keep the baby, decide not to and be able to give the child a chance for life without themselves being judged for giving up a baby that they were merciful enough not to abort.

I do wonder how much of this falls along racial lines and is there any proof that these babies being relinquished in the traditional fashion are not finding homes?
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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In a perfect world all children would be wanted and kept in a loving home by the biological parents. But we don't live in a perfect world.

So I am fine with this initiative. It is better than throwing them in a garbage can or a dumpster or killing them.
......and conceived by a couple who can afford to raise them without living off the government teet, boobie. Ti t, boobie, film flams, knockers, etc.....
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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In NYC it is optional and it is working.
Students can also get Plan B pills in school.

NYC has tranformed the nurse's office in public schools to full healthcare facilities with screening and testing to performing IUD insertions.

They started this a couple of years ago and the numbers show it's working.
They have MDs doing IUD insertions in school nurse offices?
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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Much better then throwing them in a dumpster to die
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