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Old 01-16-2015, 02:52 PM
 
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It is often said that there is strength in diversity. This is a very general statement that can be applied in a great many realms of life. What, generally speaking, are your feelings about it?

The idea most commonly comes up in political contexts concerning cultural diversity, racial diversity, religious diversity and, lately, we've seen it applied in the broadest sense of lifestyle diversity (e.g., LGBTQ, polyamory, gay marriage...). In these contexts, is "strength in diversity" generally true?

Assuming that there are some cases where "strength in diversity" is true, and other cases where it might not be, I'd really like to get a deep understanding of exactly why there is strength in diversity (when it's true) and why, in other cases, diversity might do more harm than good.

Are there underlying principles at work that might help us to generally predict the effects of diversity in various kinds of situations?
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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The only strength there is? Taking the BEST qualified people for the job at hand.

any other action is nonsense !!!!!
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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It is often said that there is strength in diversity. This is a very general statement that can be applied in a great many realms of life. What, generally speaking, are your feelings about it?

The idea most commonly comes up in political contexts concerning cultural diversity, racial diversity, religious diversity and, lately, we've seen it applied in the broadest sense of lifestyle diversity (e.g., LGBTQ, polyamory, gay marriage...). In these contexts, is "strength in diversity" generally true?

Assuming that there are some cases where "strength in diversity" is true, and other cases where it might not be, I'd really like to get a deep understanding of exactly why there is strength in diversity (when it's true) and why, in other cases, diversity might do more harm than good.

Are there underlying principles at work that might help us to generally predict the effects of diversity in various kinds of situations?
Diversity is actually neutral. Diversity is simply the mix of many different things. Whether it's leads to good or bad results, if these results can even be judged universally, depends. We say that "strands in diversity" because in a diversified a like ours, we cannot upset certain groups. It is more or less a phrase of political correctness.

Diversity is largely a good thing for libertarians. Libertarians like to love in a society where no majority bully a minority that they are left alone that they enjoy individual liberty and economic freedom. That is difficult to do if a society has a Clear dominant group. We used to be that way but today we are much more diverse. This is why the peak of US social democracy and the union existence was also the peak of racial exclusion and homogeneity. Because it was easy to solidify people who share similar cultural heritage, language, ideas, and lifestyles. What help to preserve the American system of political liberty and economic freedom is the subsequence opening of immigration, particularly immigration from Third World countries. this diversity dissolved the homogeneity and shared experiences often required for arbitrary rule. If you are the only one different than the majority of people in the room, you could be scared and you're always viewed as different. But if you are one of a group of people with enormous diversity, you are the norm being the individual being different.

I suggested that conservatives not view diversity as something against them. Everything that the left want to do requires a lot of support, which often come from the large the white liberal population. The preachy agendas and telling people what to do would be probable when you are the only conservative left on a white liberal block. I wish that conservatives welcomed diversity, as a way to preserve the individual liberty that seems declining with more and more intrusive government regulations that feel-good white liberals think they are entitled to shove down people's throat.

Today's immigrants aren't in America to pay taxes, to promote radical feminism, to congregate in downtowns, to belittle working class people and their religions. These immigrants are more like your everyday american, looking for a place to raise your family safely, some extra bucks to save for your retirement, sane tax that actually is used where it deserves. The elitist liberal class in America has always been and is still overwhelmingly white and entitled. Immigrants aren't their real friends, if conservatives do not foolishly push away some of the most hardworking individuals who came to America for our freedom and liberty, for a chance to work hard for that dream. They are americans who happen to be born in a foreign country. At least, that's better than lefties who just want to turn our country into Denmark against our will.

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Old 01-16-2015, 03:53 PM
 
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Diversity is diversity. There is no strength in it.
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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It is often said that there is strength in diversity. This is a very general statement that can be applied in a great many realms of life. What, generally speaking, are your feelings about it?

The idea most commonly comes up in political contexts concerning cultural diversity, racial diversity, religious diversity and, lately, we've seen it applied in the broadest sense of lifestyle diversity (e.g., LGBTQ, polyamory, gay marriage...). In these contexts, is "strength in diversity" generally true?

Assuming that there are some cases where "strength in diversity" is true, and other cases where it might not be, I'd really like to get a deep understanding of exactly why there is strength in diversity (when it's true) and why, in other cases, diversity might do more harm than good.

Are there underlying principles at work that might help us to generally predict the effects of diversity in various kinds of situations?
What kind of strength and what kind of diversity?

Both those words have been so mauled and trampled and folded and spindled and twisted that they are now meaningless.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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The only strength there is? Taking the BEST qualified people for the job at hand.
I agree.

However, we do need to make sure the pool we pick from includes all the best possible candidates.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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Diversity for diversity's sake only serves to weaken society, not strengthen it.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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There is no thinking outside the box if we all think, and believe one way. What a boring world that would be.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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There is no thinking outside the box if we all think, and believe one way. What a boring world that would be.
Good point. I forget who said it, but I shudder to think what the world would be if everybody was like me.

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Old 01-16-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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This is the greatest scam ever pushed by the Left. ANY nation's strength comes through their UNITY. Unity of CULTURE, a shared history, a shared set of values (the INDIVIDUAL is supreme over the State). This "diversity" is tearing the country apart.
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