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Old 03-10-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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What is your incentive for being such a extreme ISP apologist.

In what world is okay at marketing to say 50mbps but in fine print say. . yeah that is the maximum, you may never actually get that.


There should be some accountability of speeds. From an advertising standpoint it shouldn't be a "maximum". It misleads the public.

I mean it should be simple. . .i.e. to advertise a speed class that class must achieve during peak and non-peak time the average speed of said advertising scheme to the top 20% of customer internet site requests.





Miss-leading advertising. . .is not okay. Even if it says in the fine print "dude, if you believed the 50mbs we have something else to sell yous sucker"
It's impossible to guarantee speeds. They can only guarantee what the THEORETICAL limit is.
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:42 PM
 
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It's impossible to guarantee speeds. They can only guarantee what the THEORETICAL limit is.
yeah, maybe I didn't make it clear.

Its not about guaranteeing a specific speed. Its about rules for marketing and advertising.



For example, For a ISP to advertise a speed then they must be able to provide that speed to the top 20% of customer internet used internet companies (not counting own). It would be a "average customer" ranking.

i.e. if you want to advertise 50mbps you should be able to deliver 50mbps to a "index" of top sites during peak and non-peak times


No different than rules go into advertising a meat (if you want to call it lite, it goes through certain rules).


IF ISP do not/want to/can not be competitive with these speed tiers. . they just can't advertise them this way.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Making the internet fall under utility opens up options for people who are unhappy with their current service.

I really do not see how this ruling is a bad thing except for the corporations who want to have a stranglehold (read: monopoly) on the market.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:55 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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Making the internet fall under utility opens up options for people who are unhappy with their current service.

I really do not see how this ruling is a bad thing except for the corporations who want to have a stranglehold (read: monopoly) on the market.
See even if the company was like those I gave business to when dial up was way to connect. I paid like $6.00 a month to them for unlimited access 24/7 then roughly two, maybe three years later, they would sell their accounts over to a bigger company. After a couple of times this happened I knew what was going on, but, all I had to do was go shopping again. They made their money off the sell of the accounts. I think that is called free enterprise.

I'd do it again with my DSL, if I could.

Actually, I did, with my first DSL account, however, I don't see to many companies doing that any more, if any at all, so, I'm thinking they can't. Now maybe they can. Also I have moved to a location that I'm being chocked out of pocket by the guys in DSL and the Electric company.
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Old 03-11-2015, 04:40 AM
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Location: Florida
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I'm not sure I follow.
I'm okay with that.

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Also, I'm thinking, you maybe part of the 80% mentioned in the FCC survey.
And I suppose my mother wore army boots too, eh?

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I mean it should be simple.
But it isn't. And that's the case no matter how juvenile you are in stamping your feet and insisting that things should be the way you want them to be.


If folks are intent on maintaining a childish demeanor regarding this issue, then there's nothing I can say that will dissuade y'all.
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Old 03-11-2015, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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I'm okay with that.
So you're okay not expanding and clarifying your position in the face of confusion?

Are you even capable of critical thinking and explaining your stance on this?

So to be clear - I'm confused as to why you have said "we'll have to agree to disagree" and not follow it up with some clarification. How is Net Neutrality a bad thing? How is an Open Internet a bad thing?
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