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Old 03-04-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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Who even implied that?



Typical right-wing response - throw insults and not even address the point argued.

I'll repeat; if "health care" is not insurance, what are we talking about? The argument is over the ability for lower income citizens to afford to see a doctor without breaking their piggybanks. Don't deflect with semantics.
Dont you know they can go to the ER if they cant afford to see the Dr. Because we all know its free and getting care through the ER is the best way to get care!!!!!!!
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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Another day, another attack on everyday Americans.

Just what is so appealing about cutting off assistance to people trying to get HEALTH CARE!?!?!
Ask whoever drafted the ACA, as passed. They wrote it exactly so that would happen because they wanted states to set up their own exchanges. Gruber expressly stated such in several taped speeches. The subsidies were the incentive for states to establish their own exchanges. The phrase words limiting subsidies to "an exchange established by the state" actually appears 11 times in the ACA.
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Gruber: "What’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits — but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill. So you’re essentially saying [to] your citizens you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country. I hope that that’s a blatant enough political reality that states will get their act together and realize there are billions of dollars at stake here in setting up these exchanges."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rttqLh12U
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Don't do that! It's good for a laugh, most everyday!
That's true.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Who even implied that? .
You did

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Another day, another attack on everyday Americans.

Just what is so appealing about cutting off assistance to people trying to get HEALTH CARE!?!?!
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Typical right-wing response - throw insults and not even address the point argued.

I'll repeat; if "health care" is not insurance, what are we talking about? The argument is over the ability for lower income citizens to afford to see a doctor without breaking their piggybanks. Don't deflect with semantics.
Says the person who supports people who are in opposition to the ACA being called terrorist and such...
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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I don't know if there's anything out there but is there any type of way to make it where people can actually be helped but it doesn't require everyone else to be punished by taking worse plans or having ridiculous taxes just because they worked for a job that provides great benefits?
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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I don't know if there's anything out there but is there any type of way to make it where people can actually be helped but it doesn't require everyone else to be punished by taking worse plans or having ridiculous taxes just because they worked for a job that provides great benefits?
I suggest setting up a charitable foundation. The liberals constantly screaming about helping the poor can voluntarily fund it. People will be helped. And the charitable liberals can feel good about themselves. Deeds, not just words.
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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I don't know if there's anything out there but is there any type of way to make it where people can actually be helped but it doesn't require everyone else to be punished by taking worse plans or having ridiculous taxes just because they worked for a job that provides great benefits?
concierge medical
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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that's so blatantly false.



What is it then?
a tax!
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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Mid-argument updates: King v. Burwell

"Justice Kennedy expressed deep concern with a system where the statute would potentially destroy the insurance system in states that chose not to establish their own exchanges – likening this to an unconstitutional form of federal coercion. That made him seem skeptical of the petitioners’ reading of the statute, a hopeful point for defenders of the existing subsidies in all states."

Mid-argument updates: King v. Burwell (Latest update: 11:06) : SCOTUSblog

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Old 03-04-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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I can see a lot of people are still cheering for average working class Americans to lose access to health care. Such wonderful "patriotism" in our "exceptional" nation.
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