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Old 03-04-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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NO it doesn't
WHERE does it show that?

Ken

Yes it did, just above where you found your info:

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Uninsured
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-13 -20 -25 -25 -25 -25 -25 -25 -25 -25 -25
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Old 03-04-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yes it did, just above where you found your info:

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Those numbers have a MINUS sign next to them and they are in the row entitled "Uninsured". That means it's the CHANGE in the number of uninsured. A MINUS sign means that's the AMOUNT that number DROPPED BY.



IF that row had been the number of INSURED, you would have a point, but it's the number of UNINSURED - and it clearly shows the number of uninsured drops by 13 million to begin with and ends up dropping by 25 million!!!!!!!
Geeze!

Ken
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Old 03-04-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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My first thought when I heard about this on Public Radio this morning was:

How can ANY panel of Judges (lawyers all) seriously think that a House and Senate, made up of a high percentage of LAWYERS, would write a bill that did not say what it meant, and meant what it says? Would not that be tantamount to saying that the LAWYERS in the Legislature are too dumb to write well?
Congress has the power to change the law so that it covers the INTENT that some seem to think should have been written into it. Let CONGRESS make the necessary changes. In the meantime, let the law be enforced just exactly as it is written! If blame is to be levied, let it be levied on those (lawyers) who WROTE (and passed) the damfool bill in the first place. Whatever happens, it is THEIR fault!
Oh, yeah, and let's don't forget the guy (lawyer) who signed the bill into law! Seems to me HE has to carry some of the blame as well!
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Old 03-04-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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Mid-argument updates: King v. Burwell

"Justice Kennedy expressed deep concern with a system where the statute would potentially destroy the insurance system in states that chose not to establish their own exchanges – likening this to an unconstitutional form of federal coercion. That made him seem skeptical of the petitioners’ reading of the statute, a hopeful point for defenders of the existing subsidies in all states."

Mid-argument updates: King v. Burwell (Latest update: 11:06) : SCOTUSblog
"The issue of federal coercion is an important one, particularly given that a similar principle applied three years ago when the court ruled that Congress could not compel the states to expand Medicaid eligibility under the act. It could lead to the conclusion that the Internal Revenue Service's interpretation of that phrase to allow subsidies in states that use the federal exchange is permissible, or that if the statute must mean what the plaintiffs say, then the restriction it implies must be stricken as unconstitutional. Either way, the law survives."

Supreme Court hears King v. Burwell Obamacare case - Baltimore Sun

If this argument was accepted by the SC regarding expanding Medicaid, it would seem it should stand here as well.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Another day- another attack on ordinary Americans from the GOP.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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It's interesting to note that the highest percentage of people who would lose their insurance are likely to be predominantly white, Southern and employed full-time.
Who more than likely had insurance they liked but lost it when the great lie was unveiled.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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Another day, another attack on everyday Americans.

Just what is so appealing about cutting off assistance to people trying to get HEALTH CARE!?!?!
I don't like being forced into buying a product that doesn't suit me.

Bottom line.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: North America
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Here is the opinion of the Court of Appeals that is being considered today by the Court:

KING v. BURWELL - FindLaw

This court did find that the plaintiffs had standing. I doubt it will be an issue today.
Did they issue and order saying so?
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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I can see a lot of people are still cheering for average working class Americans to lose access to health care. Such wonderful "patriotism" in our "exceptional" nation.
Who lost access to health care?

I stayed uninsured and I have access to health care.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: North America
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I hope the SC upholds the ACA law AS WRITTEN, and not "what we meant for it to say". Regardless of so called intent, the language in the law is clear.
I think it's likely they will. Although, I sort of hope they do strike it down to see all the political backlash the Republicans would face.
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