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Old 01-11-2008, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Beginning very soon, American's will be required to have a modern techno-id to drive a car, to board, an airplane, etc. I am an old fart, so I don't have to change, but I would be glad to do so.

Since I am beyond 50, I hope those of you who are under 50, especially those who are under 30 will listen to what the old gezzers have experienced. In my 20's, I voted for McGovern, Carter and served as a soldier in several liberal issues. I was a big "spread the wealth" kind of guy, then I realized that "spreading the wealth" meant sending more of my money to some state or federal tax account. I also saw poor people catching a disease no American should ever be exposed to. That disease was hopelessness. Then I noticed that the pro-socialistic Latin countries such as Mexico, Cuba, Jamacia, as well as China, India, and other nations were using the same pill as we were beginning to take. I discovered a harsh fact, governments everywhere want a huge number of voting poor to keep that government in power. Therefore, by being socialistic, the spread the wealth by destroying the middle, making friends rich, and keeping more of the poor, poor.

As in Young Frankenstein, "it's a lie, it's a lie." The real truth is simple, any time a dollar comes from your pocket and goes to a government, you have lost power. You have given your power to fewer people to dictate how and who gets money.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:46 AM
 
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Yes giving money to the government is bad. I guess all those who lobby can go home, since they are wasting their money. After all, no laws have been made that favor large corporations at the expense of the middle class.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The tax laws greatly favor the corporations over everyone else. Why do you think we have Wal-mart, illegal aliens, war and empire. They are good for corporations and the MAJORITY OWNERS - BUT NOT FOR ME AND MINE.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Can you imagine how convenient it is going to be for big business marketing and advertising (two of my major annoyances) to keep track of eh population when they get a remote RFID chip into everybody? This is the logical result of a computer readable national id card. Why not make it simple for our homegrown GESTAPO called Homeland Security.

Wouldn’t it make you feel so much safer to have your location and transactions continuously tracked? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the government and/or businesses could set limits on where people could go and what they could buy? Keep drunks from buying booze and starting their cars with a set time limit. Put an ankle restraint on to everybody and we would all be safe from each other.

All of this is possible. All that is needed is for some company to figure out a way to make money at it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:18 AM
 
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Can you imagine how convenient it is going to be for big business marketing and advertising (two of my major annoyances) to keep track of eh population when they get a remote RFID chip into everybody? This is the logical result of a computer readable national id card. Why not make it simple for our homegrown GESTAPO called Homeland Security.

Wouldn’t it make you feel so much safer to have your location and transactions continuously tracked? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the government and/or businesses could set limits on where people could go and what they could buy? Keep drunks from buying booze and starting their cars with a set time limit. Put an ankle restraint on to everybody and we would all be safe from each other.

All of this is possible. All that is needed is for some company to figure out a way to make money at it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:19 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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And the government will eventually sell the data to the private sector. Objections will be raised but the reply will be its capitalistic, Why do you hate America?

What bothers me about this is less that its happening but most people won't care. People feel they have too much to lose, that leased Lexus, their corporate job and their home...don't forget little Sally...let's not shake the trees, adverse to risk America.
Whimps.

And what power exactly in the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA gives the Federal government this right to do this again?
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Neither am I.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Tis so sad. Sadly, we can't trust ourselves. In my OP, while I failed to paraphrase Young Frankenstein, did you note the power we have given our bureaucrats with our money? We do live in a new day and time, some very good, but so much is so terrible. Our government does not owe us a living! It does not owe us a house to live in, nor food on the table, it only owes us protection for the opportunity to live free. Free to fail or free to succeed is all.

On another point, those big corporations most of Americans own stock in...
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:15 PM
 
Location: FL/TX Coasts
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...what goes around, comes around...
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Old 01-12-2008, 09:44 AM
 
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I think that our "democracy" has evolved into an oligarchy, where the elitists rule. Doesn't matter whether democrat or GOP, the elite keep the power. And the corporations are in bed with the elites, heck they are the elite! We still maintain the democratic "ideology", to assuage the masses, but in truth we as the "little people" have much diminished power over economic aspects of our lives. I think outsourcing has been the largest dirty trick the elites have played on an unsuspecting public. Yeah, it's for our own good.... The other is not closing the borders, and promulgating the NAU, again, it's for our own good.... Losing our sovereignty? Am sure that will be for our own good as well. Do the elites really know what is best for us? or them??
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