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Old 03-06-2015, 01:58 PM
 
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Democrats want to raise min wage for workers, give all workers health insurance, give the middle class tax cuts, give students low interest rate student loans, give small businesses tax cuts, ex.ex. (but the corporate republicans stop them.)

GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
Student Loan Vote: Republicans Block Bill To Extend Low Interest Rates
GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill : Roll Call News
They had the presidency, the House and the Senate. They did none of these. They voted to re-up Bernanke that did the exact opposite of all of that.

It's easy to say you are for things when you know that you don't actually have to follow through on it.
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:03 PM
 
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If it's a competitive market, reducing taxes will reduce prices.




Then don't buy an iphone. They haven't stolen a dime from me.
I have a better idea anyways.

If a few Corporate Lobbyists can run roughshed over the nation for "Free Trade Pacts" then a few Pro American Citizens can do the same. It is only a matter of time.
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:08 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Tax breaks for corporations DO help workers, in at least the 2 ways I already described:

1) More growth in pension/retirement investment accounts, providing more retirement funding for American workers and retirees.
Corporate tax cuts get added to our national debt, and give CEO's the funds to build more factories in Asia. If you want to help workers take the tax dollars from corporations, and then directly deposit that money in pension/retirement accounts. And it won't hurt the large corporations because they already have an effective tax rate of 12%, and many large corporations (literally) pay 0% tax rates.

GAO: U.S. corporations pay average effective tax rate of 12.6% - Jul. 1, 2013
Large companies find ways to a zero tax rate

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2) Lower cost-push inflation price increases on goods and services.
Corporate and CEO tax cuts are responsible for 48% of our budget deficits.
http://crooksandliars.com/files/uplo...7_sm_bafaf.jpg

High deficits/debt make the US dollar loose value and loose buying power. Instead of giving CEO's tax cuts to build factories in Asia, give 1/2 the tax cut money to the middle class, and use the other 1/2 to pay down our deficits. And then the middle class can spend the tax cut money and stimulate the whole economy.


And I apologize for the previous sarcastic post, I couldn't help it. I think perhaps in politics conservatives and liberals naturally hate each other, but outside of politics I know you conservatives are good people.

Chad.
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:14 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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They had the presidency, the House and the Senate. They did none of these. They voted to re-up Bernanke that did the exact opposite of all of that.

It's easy to say you are for things when you know that you don't actually have to follow through on it.
Political parties can stop things in congress even if they don't have control. I heard something the other day where democrats in congress just stopped republicans from doing something. Obama tried to raise CEO tax rates to a fair level, but the "Buffet Rule" was stopped by a Republican filibuster.

Buffett Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Corporate tax cuts get added to our national debt
They don't have to. Cut government spending.
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:51 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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They don't have to. Cut government spending.
So your saying cut CEO/corporate tax rates, create deficits from the lack of revenues, and then cut government programs to make the deficits go away?


Paul Ryan Proposes Massive Tax Cut For the Rich That Adds $100 Billion To Deficit

With the above tax cut what programs would you want to cut to erase its deficit?


And I'm not purposely trying to mess with you, but what programs would you want to cut to erase the above tax cuts deficit?

Chad.

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Old 03-06-2015, 03:03 PM
 
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They don't have to. Cut government spending.
Why would we cut spending that helps 99% of citizens?

Oh yeah... only the 1% wants this.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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I have a better idea anyways.

If a few Corporate Lobbyists can run roughshed over the nation for "Free Trade Pacts" then a few Pro American Citizens can do the same. It is only a matter of time.
The time is coming when people in large numbers start saying "no".
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:06 PM
 
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So your saying cut CEO/corporate tax rates, create deficits from the lack of revenues, and then cut government programs to make the deficits go away?
No, I'm saying cut government spending.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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Political parties can stop things in congress even if they don't have control.
They can but the (D)'s never even tried. The president nominates the Fed chair. No one can force him to appoint anyone. If the (D)'s had vote "no" Bernanke never gets re-appointed. You can't complain about things the person you support did and put the blame on others. That was 100% on Obama.

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I heard something the other day where democrats in congress just stopped republicans from doing something. Obama tried to raise CEO tax rates to a fair level, but the "Buffet Rule" was stopped by a Republican filibuster.

Buffett Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You heard wrong then. The Republicans don't have to filibuster anything because the (D) actions gave them control of both houses.
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