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Old 03-06-2015, 12:41 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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For nothing in exchange, yes. The rest, as Open the Books is very careful to state, was payment for goods and/or services rendered. Much like people have to pay mortgages or rent and utilities. You can hardly call that corporate welfare. It's simply paying one's bills for goods or services rendered.
"From 2000-2012 democrats and republicans together only gave $21.3 billion dollars to corporations", thats laughable. Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney all by himself gave oil companies more than $21.3 billion dollars.

Heres Dick Cheney (giving) oil companies $18.1 billion dollars.
Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS

Here's Dick Cheney giving Haliburton $39.5 billion dollars in no-bid government contracts in Iraq. And since Cheney is a Halliburton CEO you know he padded the contracts so Haliburton could take billions.

FOCUS | Cheney's Halliburton Made $39.5 Billion on Iraq War
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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They knew what they were buying, power for the unions (specifically the union leaders).
Democrats want to raise min wage for workers, give all workers health insurance, give the middle class tax cuts, give students low interest rate student loans, give small businesses tax cuts, ex.ex. (but the corporate republicans stop them.)

GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
Student Loan Vote: Republicans Block Bill To Extend Low Interest Rates
GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill : Roll Call News

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Old 03-06-2015, 12:57 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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"From 2000-2012 democrats and republicans together only gave $21.3 billion dollars to corporations", thats laughable. Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney all by himself gave oil companies more than $21.3 billion dollars.

Heres Dick Cheney (giving) oil companies $18.1 billion dollars.
Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS
Tax breaks don't "give" anyone government money. They just allow corporations to keep more of the money they already had.

Who are among the top beneficiaries of lower taxes on corporations? The millions of American workers and retirees who own $24 trillion worth of equity investments, etc., in their pension/retirement accounts

Retirement Question 4 | EBRI

Higher corporate taxes means lower growth in that $24 trillion pension/retirement investment sector. That means retirees take a hit. Are you sure that's what you want? For millions of American workers and retirees to have less funding for their retirement?

Too many people have a complete lack of understanding that high and/or increasing corporate tax rates is like shooting themselves in the foot, both in regards to the cost-push inflation price increases it causes, and the reduction in retirement funding it would cause.

Do you have any idea how much you're embarrassing yourself by mindlessly parroting class warfare propaganda without actually realizing how corporate tax breaks benefit millions of people in at least 2 different ways?
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Yes democrats gave billions of dollars to corporations,
Thanks for agreeing with me.

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Yes democrats gave millions of dollars to corporations,
Actually, it's TRILLIONS.


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Democrats give away a billion dollars (and its bad.)
Actually, it's more like a few trillion.

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Republicans give away a trillion dollars (and its OK.)
Says who?
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I wish I could laugh, but since all those republican handouts get added to our national debt its just not funny.
I too wish I could laugh, but since all those democrat and republican handouts get added to our national debt its just not funny.
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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(Dem) Bill Clinton raised tax rates on Wall Street CEO's and balanced our budget.
Just for the record, the Federal Government has not had a surplus since the 1950s. Even under Clinton.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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Democrats want to raise min wage for workers, give all workers health insurance, give the middle class tax cuts, give students low interest rate student loans, give small businesses tax cuts, ex.ex. (but the corporate republicans stop them.)
It's kind of cute that you believe this.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Liberal billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet who support democrats are good people. .
Only if you define "good people" as democrats.

Grow up.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Citizens United along with Money Backed Lobbying is Political Corruption and Legalized Bribery.
Can you be more specific about Citizens United? I'm curious.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Not always.
Many times the "saved" money goes to shareholders or executive bonuses.
If it's a competitive market, reducing taxes will reduce prices.


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Explain where the excess money is on this Iphone.


Apple's iPhone 6 Reportedly Costs $200 to Make
Apple’s $649 iPhone 6 Reportedly Costs $200 to Make

So they are stealing from consumers and using that investment money to invest in emerging markets and not on this country.

They are parasites
Then don't buy an iphone. They haven't stolen a dime from me.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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"From 2000-2012 democrats and republicans together only gave $21.3 billion dollars to corporations", thats laughable. Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney all by himself gave oil companies more than $21.3 billion dollars.

Heres Dick Cheney (giving) oil companies $18.1 billion dollars.
Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS

Here's Dick Cheney giving Haliburton $39.5 billion dollars in no-bid government contracts in Iraq. And since Cheney is a Halliburton CEO you know he padded the contracts so Haliburton could take billions.

FOCUS | Cheney's Halliburton Made $39.5 Billion on Iraq War
Actually, Cheney can't do any of that. He was the VP.
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