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Old 03-06-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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I See no reason the guv shouldnt profit from someones death
Neither do I. So.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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No hoarding is not bad for the economy, it is neutral for the economy. What is bad for the economy is government putting money in places where market forces did not want it, picking winners and losers.

Only corruption can create a feudal society, not hording. And if you are not out there growing your fortune and engaging with capitalism then inflation will eventually catch up with it, so again your fictional problem of 'unfair they dont have to do anything' is solved.
LOL, hoarding is bad for the economy. I shouldn't have to explain how economy works.

The government issues currency to the citizens in exchange for production (creates money). The government confiscates and redistributes that currency (taxation) to discourage its citizens from taking that money and not producing. All fiat governments operate under this model, as they have for thousands of years. It falls apart when people stop producing.

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I See no reason the guv shouldnt profit from someones death
The government doesn't "profit." The government pays all its bills by issuing new currency. The government doesn't have a reason or need to earn profit.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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Like all things estate, plan for it. As you get closer to the finish line, however best one can guess that, move to cash and withdraw. If you have kids, give the legal limit, and give even more after that. If they are good kids, they can always hand back to you as needed. Might cramp your style but, above all, try to die with the limit in mind and the rst with family.

Not easy to do but, imagine giving 500k to our government only to hand out to folks who never tried. Nope. Not going to happen.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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Not easy to do but, imagine giving 500k to our government only to hand out to folks who never tried. Nope. Not going to happen.
Is that all you see the estate tax as? That's just cold-hearted malice towards people less fortunate than you.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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I See no reason the guv shouldnt profit from someones death
Actually, in terms of overall fairness I think the Estate tax is probably actually a more equitable tax then an earned income tax, or payroll tax.

The earned income tax, and payroll tax taxes money that the recipient put in blood, sweat, tears, sleep, and/or time into getting. The Estate tax taxes money that the recipient likely gets by coming out of the right vagina.

Now I can understand some folks want no taxes, but given the options I have to say I don't think there is a real question.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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As Obama is positioning to raise the estate tax rate in the U.S. to the highest in the industrialized world.
Stephen Moore makes the case for eliminating it altogether.
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/32877
STEPHEN MOORE: Kill the death tax - Washington Times
The "Death Tax/Estate Tax" only effects the wealthiest 0.3% of Americans.
Estate tax victims are only the 0.3% - CBS News

And "According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, raising the estate tax by just 10% could produce more than $250 billion in added revenue over the next ten years."
Estate Tax Increase Would Add Billions In Revenue, Say Wealthy Progressives

With the above in mind,

Should we keep the Estate Tax at its present rate?
Should we slightly raise the Estate Tax and get $250 billion in extra revenue?
Or eliminate the Estate Tax?
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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..............the death tax exists to keep us from becoming how Britain has been for centuries. America is about earning your way not inheriting it.
Tell that to those who do not earn anything and live off the government which just uses this scheme as wealth redistribution.
Remember the people who die have already paid taxes on their money/assets, yet the government wants a 2nd or even a 3rd bite of it after the person dies.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:40 PM
 
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My estate tax.

Fortunes up to $5 million should be taxed at normal tax rates.
Fortunes $5 million to $20 million should be taxed at a marginal rate of 50%
Fortunes over $20 million should be taxed at a marginal rate of 90%.

You better donate those multi-multi-million dollar fortunes to charity.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:40 PM
 
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The surest way to preserve our way of life is to tax inheritance 100 percent. Large inherited fortunes are a menace to democracy and meritocracy.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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Tell that to those who do not earn anything and live off the government which just uses this scheme as wealth redistribution.
.....but you're advocating that for your children.

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Remember the people who die have already paid taxes on their money/assets, yet the government wants a 2nd or even a 3rd bite of it after the person dies.
No, the government is treating it as income when it transfers to the next party.

What don't you people understand? It is INCOME. You can't take it with you when you die.
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