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Old 03-09-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Then why have voters been very consistent in voting against it?
Consistent? Maybe in the past but the tides have turned. I believe in the 2012 election voters in all 4 states that had SSM on the balllot voted to legalize same sex marriage.
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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The court will not be ruling based on sexual orientation. The questions before the supreme court don't even mention sexual orientation.
Thats not at all what I said.. I said it IS currently illegal to discriminate, A FACT...
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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Repeating a [a] lie [b] self-deception [c] deflection doesn't make what you wrote any less false.

... interracial couples the right to marry.
Loving v. Virginia
So much for that portion of your nonsense.

More nonsense. Rights have been denied since time immemorial, as evidenced by Loving v. Virginia as well. You're batting 0.000 today.
Once again, the Constitution is a charter of NEGATIVE liberties. It establishes what the federal government CAN NOT DO.. Not what it can do. It does NOT establish rules that that must be followed, it says what law CANT BE PASSED.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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Exactly what will happen.
The government can not deny benefits to one group and deny them to others. Once a state allows gay marriage that couple gets the same benefits as any married couple. Taxes, S.S. benefits etc. So the Supreme Court is going to acknowledge gay marriage as legit. Once that happens the fight is over. There maybe loose ends here or there but its going to be small fights.
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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The 14th amendment covers marriage as much as it covered womens right to vote.
It took an amendment to make it a right... Just as it is going to take an amendment to allow the federal government control marriage.
Yeah, yeah yeah you keep saying that but the courts see it differently. Where did you get your law degree? Out of a bottom of a box of Cracker Jacks?
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Yes, but thats only because it was illegal at the time, to discriminate based upon race..

Its not currently, illegal to discriminate based upon sexual orientation.

You can argue that it should be, but until it is, the argument is mute.
You can argue all you want but SSM will be legal in all 50 states this summer.
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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You can argue all you want but SSM will be legal in all 50 states this summer.
Dream on.
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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Dream on.
You don't believe it will happen? It's already legal in almost 40 and the Supreme Court is making the final decision in June, and based on their current decisions to not grant stays to states like Alabama, it's pretty obvious which way they're going to vote.

Or do you somehow think the Supreme Court saying it's now legal in all 50 states doesn't actually make it legal in all 50 states?
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Yes, but thats only because it was illegal at the time, to discriminate based upon race..

Its not currently, illegal to discriminate based upon sexual orientation.

You can argue that it should be, but until it is, the argument is mute.
You can argue all you want but SSM will be legal in all 50 states this summer.
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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You can argue all you want but SSM will be legal in all 50 states this summer.
Don't count on it. The court has been very reluctant to make single large moves in one swoop. I believe they will set in motion what will lead in the end to SSM in all states.
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