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Many of the potential candidates have strong religious affiliations.
Huckabee, Carson, Walker, etc.....
Would this cause a conflict with our constitution?
How did Kennedy handle the job as President being such a devout Catholic? What about Carter and his fundamentalist Baptist background? What about Bush's stand on "pro life" because of his religious believs? Did you see make any attempt to change Roe versus Wade? Of course religious beliefs would not, in any way cause a conflict with our constitution...If you think it would, maybe all candidates should be atheists? Would that be better? BTW, I notice you talk about the Republicans and the 2 I think about when I think of very religious happen to be Democrats.
I see religious persuasion vis a vis politics as similar to political persuasion vis a vis job performance. In my job I know conservatives who are lazy and incompetent and liberals who are sharp, and vice versa. There is not an automatic translation. Carter and Reagan were both deeply religious Christians, yet their approaches to governing were very different.
Looking back at history, there has always been interplay between religion and politics. Lincoln turned to the Christian faith late in life, and Christian conservatives were largely responsibly for bringing about the end of slavery in the 19th century. I am not persuaded of any religious faith, but the Judeo-Christian values have proven to be the most beneficent over the long haul.
Was Reagan deeply religious? He never struck me that way.
Was Reagan deeply religious? He never struck me that way.
He came from a very religious home and was taught to practice his religion faithfully from the time he could talk and walk. Was he a man that attended church regularly? No, but he was a devout Christian.
Rev. Wright is an ordained minister in good standing with the United Church of Christ. Trinity UCC where Rev. Wright was pastor for 36 years, is a member congregation of the Untied Church of Christ. The roots of the UCC in the United States extends back to the Puritans and Pilgrims. Which is why to this day many if not most communities in New England have congregations that like Trinity in Chicago are members of the UCC.
It matters not what their root are. That is not who they are today. Virtually all the mainline Christian Churches have become apostate, and no longer teach the Christianity of the apostles. Most will not even answer the question, "Is the Bible the Word of God?" in the affirmative. Most have forgotten why Jesus was sent (the salvation of mankind, man reconciled to God through faith in Christ), and instead, preach some kind of warm fuzzy Jesus who only taught "love." But that is not the Jesus of scripture.
What Wright preaches is 'Black Liberation Theology,' which is anything but Christian.
Was Reagan deeply religious? He never struck me that way.
I would have thought so too, but by all accounts after the assassination attempt on him in 1981, he was convinced that providence had spared his life for a purpose. He was distrustful of the Jerry Fallwells, but nonetheless I think it is fair to say that he was deeply religious, especially after the attempt on his life.
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Could you please provide the sources from which you "lifted" these "quotes," purporting to show support for the "Progressive" interpretation of "Separation of Church and State?"
"My first call was to General Dempsey, General Dempsey's office, to say, 'Hey, I am headed down the hall. I need to see him right away,'" Ham told lawmakers on the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation on June 26 of last year. "I told him what I knew. We immediately walked upstairs to meet with Secretary Panetta."
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Also among those whose secret testimony was declassified was Dempsey, the first person Ham briefed about Benghazi. Ham told lawmakers he considered it a fortuitous "happenstance" that he was able to rope Dempsey and Panetta into one meeting, so that, as Ham put it, "they had the basic information as they headed across for the meeting at the White House." Ham also told lawmakers he met with Panetta and Dempsey when they returned from their 30-minute session with President Obama on Sept. 11.
It matters not what their root are. That is not who they are today. Virtually all the mainline Christian Churches have become apostate, and no longer teach the Christianity of the apostles. Most will not even answer the question, "Is the Bible the Word of God?" in the affirmative. Most have forgotten why Jesus was sent (the salvation of mankind, man reconciled to God through faith in Christ), and instead, preach some kind of warm fuzzy Jesus who only taught "love." But that is not the Jesus of scripture.
What Wright preaches is 'Black Liberation Theology,' which is anything but Christian.
But thanks for your input.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter to you, but I think you have just excluded the majority of Christians in the United States as well as many of our Christian founders.
FWIW: the following passage is from Stephen Mansfield's book, "The Faith of Barack Obama". Mansfield is a conservative evangelical who actually visited Trinity UCC and attended multiple services.
Critics of Obama and, certainly, of Jeremiah Wright wonder whether anything approximating the traditional Christian gospel is preached at Trinity Church. Wright's political pronouncements have been so radical and his demeanor in YouTube clips so angry that it is hard for some, particularly evangelicals, to accept that the church is anything more than a black Marxist recruitment center. Yet this is part of the sometimes confusing nature of both Wright and his church. Yes, Jesus Christ is offered to sinners as the Son of God who died and rose again. Yes, the church calls men to be saved from death and hell through confessing their wrongs and submitting their lives to a crucified Christ. Yes , this is the "born-again, new birth, blood-washed, Spirit-empowered Christianity" that evangelicals know.
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Well, Mike Huckabee can't amend the Constitution on his own. So, moot. The Founders gave us as near to perfect a document as man is capable of producing. We have to be very careful with any amendment proposals. Prohibition was a disaster. It was repealed.
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But Huckabee as President can choose to follow religious doctrine ,where he as President has an ability to do so.
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