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Our other allies (who are actually far more influential globally) - most notably the UK, differ with you. Do you trust negotiations in the hands of the US, Germany, UK, France, China and Russia, or would you side with Israel over them all? You should know that intelligence in every single one of them (including Israel) supports that this is the right course of action.
Israel has the most to lose here. As the only Democracy in the Middle East, there concerns should weigh heavily. Obama is giving Israel short shrift. But virtually the entire Middle East is threatened by such a deal, which will guarantee that Iran will have nuclear weapons. There will be no stopping them.
If (as you say) our other allies differ with me on this, they are indeed as short sighted as Obama.
Israel has the most to lose here. As the only Democracy in the Middle East, there concerns should weigh heavily. Obama is giving Israel short shrift. But virtually the entire Middle East is threatened by such a deal, which will guarantee that Iran will have nuclear weapons. There will be no stopping them.
If (as you say) our other allies differ with me on this, they are indeed as short sighted as Obama.
What do you mean "If..."?! You really think this a beer summit with Obama and the mullahs?
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It is not about the use of executive orders, which are routinely used for routine matters.
It is about the intentional circumvention of the US Constitution for major matters regarded by people across the country as of great national importance. It is in this way that Obama has distinguished himself by his selfish and unlawful abuse of executive orders.
Biased much?
it's OK, we understand that in the eyes on many when Obama does something it's wrong no matter how many have done it 'rightly' before.
Should we have a unified foreign policy? Or is it okay for any bozo senator or small-town mayor be able to speak for our country with another power? What these idiots did is a disrespect toward the office of the POTUS.
1984 10 Democrats send letter to Daniel Ortega Saavedra undermining Reagan's foreign policy.
Now 10 Democratic lawmakers have written a ''Dear Comandante'' letter that is kicking up a fuss on Capitol Hill.
The letter is addressed to Daniel Ortega Saavedra, the coordinator of the junta that rules Nicaragua. In it, the lawmakers commend his Government ''for taking steps to open up the political process in your country'' and urge greater efforts toward freer and more open elections.
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PM Netanyahu is a respected World Leader and many consider him to be the "Leader of the Free World" now that Obama has stepped out of that role. He is also (at least he was until Obama) an ally and friend. I guess Obama is trying to change that.
Please do detail just WHO considers him "the leader of the free world."
You?
Bibi himself?
In case you haven't taken the time to investigate, many in his own country don't consider him much of a leader at all.
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His bidding?
The U.S. and the UK along with agreement from others "forced" creation of Israel with actual Jewish input being of minimal say in the matter.
And?
After 60+ years the child hasn't learned to fend for itself?
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The U.S. created the present day situation with the theocratic ruling of Iran by It's complicity using the CIA in fomenting the ouster of it's then newly and democratically elected leader in the mid fifties because he was making noises about nationalizing Iran's oil industry:
Since US involvement has obviously been so dysfunctional, why would any reasonably sane person call for its continuation?
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Israel has the most to lose here. As the only Democracy in the Middle East, there concerns should weigh heavily. Obama is giving Israel short shrift. But virtually the entire Middle East is threatened by such a deal, which will guarantee that Iran will have nuclear weapons. There will be no stopping them.
Then Israel should bear the most responsibility to solve the issues, not the US. Obama's NUMBER ONE concern should be America's interests.
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If (as you say) our other allies differ with me on this, they are indeed as short sighted as Obama.
You're entitled to your opinion, if you expect us to believe your opinion that the majority of our allies are in fact wrong, you're going to have to supply facts, not mere opinion.
1984 10 Democrats send letter to Daniel Ortega Saavedra undermining Reagan's foreign policy.
Now 10 Democratic lawmakers have written a ''Dear Comandante'' letter that is kicking up a fuss on Capitol Hill.
The letter is addressed to Daniel Ortega Saavedra, the coordinator of the junta that rules Nicaragua. In it, the lawmakers commend his Government ''for taking steps to open up the political process in your country'' and urge greater efforts toward freer and more open elections.
Dems in Congress could start running their own foreign policy too. There is a reason why things have always been done in s certain way, but GOP has done away with all that and created their own system.
A president CAN unilaterally make a deal with another country. It does not have to be ratified, but can be overturned by the next president.
Which is exactly what the letter says.
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