How can a public university expel students for singing? (family, difference, illegal)

[Gtownoe]

Originally Posted by HiFi

I doubt the people we are talking about are anti-intellectual racists. They were no doubt singing that song for the same reason that they might watch splatter films or listen to death metal or gangster rap. Because it's ridiculous and they thought it would be funny and offensive.

Again.

Do people regularly do/say things like that around you??





And no listening to death metal or rap is not the same.

[Gtownoe]

Originally Posted by Spaten_Drinker

I expect these expelled students to sue the university and win. They won't have to work again the rest of their life.

Sue for what? You can get expelled or suspended for a lot of reasons.



Have you gone through their guidelines?

[turkey-head]

As students they signed up to be held to certain behavioral standards. They obviously violated those standards. Not much else to say.

Except that once again conservatives are defending racists. But that shouldn't surprise anybody by now.

[HiFi]

Originally Posted by Gtownoe

Again.

Do people regularly do/say things like that around you??





And no listening to death metal or rap is not the same.

It is exactly the same, lyrics which are ridiculous and offensive.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Feltdesigner

IC is trying to deflect because it hurts to see whites exposed like this...

How does saying they'll be ostracized and unemployable mean anything other than disapproval of what they did? Do you not have ANY critical thinking skills whatsoever?

[Gtownoe]

Originally Posted by HiFi

It is exactly the same, lyrics which are ridiculous and offensive.

I'm not even going to break it down to you or make the comparison.





I seriously wanna know where some of yall grew up.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by jacqueg

I agree with you. Expelling is not the proper response. Ridicule and shunning are.

I agree 100%!

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Spaten_Drinker

I expect these expelled students to sue the university and win. They won't have to work again the rest of their life.

They will win. And, yes, the monetary award for infringing on a Constitutional right will be quite large.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by turkey-head

As students they signed up to be held to certain behavioral standards.

Unconstitutional standards cannot be invoked.

[In_Correct]

Originally Posted by MJJersey

Most people have heard of the oklahoma university racist song by now. No one doubts that what these kids did was dumb and racist. But I read the school closed their frat, and they are now talking suspension or expulsion. The school president said they "abused" their free speech. Have we really gotten to the point where a public school can expel students for a non-threatening albeit racist song? It sounds unconstitutional to me.

If OU approved their behaviours then they might as well put up "no blacks" signs and "black people can't use this restroom." and "black people do not have priority seating on the bus". So one reason why OU took action is because otherwise that would make OU look bad. Another reason is that they closed down that fraternity house by following written policies.

That song is not just racist. It is threatening. I took them seriously. That there would "Never be a [six letter N word]" and if one joined they indirectly threatened to hang them from a tree. Fraternity houses are known for such cruel behaviours and I am glad that OU took the issue seriously also. It is certainly not unconstitutional.

Hanging people from trees is just wrong. Well... child abusers can hang from trees, otherwise hanging people from trees is just wrong. African Americans is to Tree as Pagan is to Stake. I love Pagans and I love African Americans.

Now that I answered your question I am going to comment that racism is still everywhere to the point if I am the only person who isn't.