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If you want everyone to have health care you should oppose ACA. Why you dont understand this is beyond my ability to ever understand.
Because supporting a program that can evolve is much better than killing it. Republicans hate health care. They hate Medicare. They hate entitlements of any kind. They had decades of opportunity to implement health care and they ran from it. They would not be discussing it now if Obama had not been elected and ACA passed. How you don't see this is beyond me. Obama has pushed Republicans in a corner. Now Republicans have proposed a budget that kills the ACA, privatizes Medicare in addition to huge cuts to Medicare and Medicaid programs. They want to cut it all in favor of increased defense spending.
I do not cut off my nose to spite my face. Even Democrats that oppose the ACA because it's not single payer are missing how sausage gets made.
Ted Kennedy said Republicans proposed a health care coverage plan to him in the 60s that left out a small segment of the population. He said no because it left some people out. He said before he died that was a huge mistake. He should have taken it and they could have negotiated the rest later.
I've never thought, nor do I think anyone ever thought, the first version of the ACA/Obamacare would be it. It was always going to be a work in progress. But I negotiate for a living and a lot of people here seem to think that every plan the country has is the same as its original implementation. They change all the time.
Because supporting a program that can evolve is much better than killing it. Republicans hate health care. They hate Medicare. They hate entitlements of any kind. They had decades of opportunity to implement health care and they ran from it. They would not be discussing it now if Obama had not been elected and ACA passed. How you don't see this is beyond me. Obama has pushed Republicans in a corner. Now Republicans have proposed a budget that kills the ACA, privatizes Medicare in addition to huge cuts to Medicare and Medicaid programs. They want to cut it all in favor of increased defense spending.
I do not cut off my nose to spite my face. Even Democrats that oppose the ACA because it's not single payer are missing how sausage gets made.
Ted Kennedy said Republicans proposed a health care coverage plan to him in the 60s that left out a small segment of the population. He said no because it left some people out. He said before he died that was a huge mistake. He should have taken it and they could have negotiated the rest later.
I've never thought, nor do I think anyone ever thought, the first version of the ACA/Obamacare would be it. It was always going to be a work in progress. But I negotiate for a living and a lot of people here seem to think that every plan the country has is the same as its original implementation. They change all the time.
What part of THIRTY MILLION are expected to GO WITHOUT insurance dont you undertsand?
NJ contributes far more to the federal coffers than it receives. NJ is a donor State and the majority of low tax States are taker States. No one with any knowledge of taxes paid on a federal level can say that overall someone is picking up NJ's bills.
NJ contributes far more to the federal coffers than it receives. NJ is a donor State and the majority of low tax States are taker States. No one with any knowledge of taxes paid on a federal level can say that overall someone is picking up NJ's bills.
Washington State is a donor state too. And we have a Health Insurance Exchange and we're doing just fine.
These red states are a joke. You know how they like to scream about tort reform? Lots of states already have it. Texas already has it and it has resulted in a state with more uninsured than almost any other. That tort reform did nothing for the except make the insurance companies more money.
All of this costs you big time. One of the many reasons an aspirin costs twice as much as a Big Meal.
We conservatives WARNED that was going to happen. We were told we didnt know what we were talking about because surely we could insure tens of millions, cut costs, spread the wealth, reduce premiums, reduce costs of procedures, if only we'd pass ACA..
Guess what, YOU WERE LIED TO, and you STILL want to pretend its a success.
I do not think the ACA is a success. It is just better than the abject failure of our previous HC system. Hopefully it is the initial step to a national system where cost can be reined in and we spend in line with most other countries.
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