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Old 01-11-2008, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Or one of them anyway.
Who can logically think that Washington DC, does not deserve statehood or at least true representation in congress?
How can one justify that?
Why is it a racial issue?
You think if Washington DC, was say like, Minneapolis, that it would not have been a state by now.
The Republicans (but even a good number of Democrats) have against this and it makes no sense at all.
So what if the hypothetical senator would be most likely be a democrat? On the House side, the Republicans would most likely get extra seats from states like Utah that would balance that out anyway.
Forgive if I'm wrong, I know that DC does not have a senator and I don't think they have a congressman (or at least one who can vote).
Can you imagine Canada denying residents of Ottawa the right of representation?
What does everyone think?
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:07 PM
 
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Are you serious?

DC has never had the same representation as the other states, even before race was ever an issue. It's a military district, specifically seperated from the rest of the country by law.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Are you serious?

DC has never had the same representation as the other states, even before race was ever an issue. It's a military district, specifically seperated from the rest of the country by law.

Yes, however it's an old law that does not make sense today, it may have back in the 1800's. If that logic is correct than folks who live on miltary bases should proably not be able to vote too.
And besides, residents of DC have always paid federal taxes just like any other state, should that alone should give them true representation.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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There is also a law, that dates back to the Boston Tea Party, that a person shall not be taxed without representation in the body that assesses the tax.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:57 PM
 
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Well, then you're going to need a Constitutional Amendment, cause as far as I know, there's where the laws governing DC are.

Is there a trashbin that this thread can be tossed in, please?
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:47 PM
 
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Or one of them anyway.
Who can logically think that Washington DC, does not deserve statehood or at least true representation in congress?
How can one justify that?
Why is it a racial issue?
You think if Washington DC, was say like, Minneapolis, that it would not have been a state by now.
The Republicans (but even a good number of Democrats) have against this and it makes no sense at all.
So what if the hypothetical senator would be most likely be a democrat? On the House side, the Republicans would most likely get extra seats from states like Utah that would balance that out anyway.
Forgive if I'm wrong, I know that DC does not have a senator and I don't think they have a congressman (or at least one who can vote).
Can you imagine Canada denying residents of Ottawa the right of representation?
What does everyone think?

And you think when Washington DC was originally set up they predicted that it was going to eventually be a mostly black city?

It's absurd to think race had anything to do with it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Yes, however it's an old law that does not make sense today, it may have back in the 1800's. If that logic is correct than folks who live on miltary bases should proably not be able to vote too.
And besides, residents of DC have always paid federal taxes just like any other state, should that alone should give them true representation.
I agree that they should have representation but not be a state because as a state you would have a state in a superior position over the Federal government which should not be. The district is a federal district and should be administered as such. But I would give them voting represenation in Congress of maybe 1 Senator and 2 Congress members as well as their city council and mayor.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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[quote=dunkel25;2490028]Well, then you're going to need a Constitutional Amendment, cause as far as I know, there's where the laws governing DC are.

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No, that's not the case. No constitntional amendment needed at all. Just exempt people who have no elected representation from any federal taxes. Tax exemptions can be granted for any reason.

Which would raise a very interesting point: How many Americana would give up their vote, in exchange for being exempted from income tax?
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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For federal representation purposes, my belief is that Washington DC should be voting as part of Maryland, but not set up as a separate state. This would include both Congressional and Senate elections.
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Old 01-12-2008, 09:58 AM
 
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Yes, however it's an old law that does not make sense today, it may have back in the 1800's. If that logic is correct than folks who live on miltary bases should proably not be able to vote too.
And besides, residents of DC have always paid federal taxes just like any other state, should that alone should give them true representation.
I don't think anyone ever votes on a military base, a soldier voted in his home state when I was in the army. But maybe it's changed !
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