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Old 03-11-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Or will it crash before he leaves office?

We all know this growth is phony. The question is whether the collusion of businesses and the government has enough accounting tricks up its sleeve to keep this party rolling through the end of next year.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Or will it crash before he leaves office?

We all know this growth is phony. The question is whether the collusion of businesses and the government has enough accounting tricks up its sleeve to keep this party rolling through the end of next year.
Not if the fed starts tightening money and raising interest rates. It's looking like Yellen is about to start doing just that.

Besides, this country lives on debt bubbles as we bounce from one to the next. After all, that's what a fiat currency is based on... debt!
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It is near impossible to time any market.

Stock markets around the world have shattered records.

Central banks are primarily responsible.

The difference between this bubble vs dot com is that companies have a lot more cash on hand. Apple has $ 175 billion. Thet can weather downturns or use it to boost growth.

Unlike the housing bubble ( which were also global) most people are generally not using gains to live beyond their means and in doing so, goosing the economy. They are not prematurely withdrawing money from their 401k accounts to take swell vacations. Taxes and penalties have been effective to discourage this sort of behavior.
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Old 03-12-2015, 06:14 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Wrong question, wrong framework.

The US rally is primarily due to the Republican success in slowing down the anti-growth, anti-jobs agenda of the Democrats. Therefore, the needless burdens inflicted on the economy by Democrat policies have ended up slowing growth, not ending it, producing a steady economy with sub-par growth but no boom.

There will not be a bust until we have a boom. And Democrats have regulated and legislated booms out of existence for the present.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:39 AM
 
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We all know this growth is phony.
Translation: the economic success under this administration needs an explanation.

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The question is whether the collusion of businesses and the government has enough accounting tricks up its sleeve to keep this party rolling through the end of next year.
Of course they do. It's not even a question. It's the government. They regulate the currency, thus the markets. Get over it.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Or will it crash before he leaves office?

We all know this growth is phony. The question is whether the collusion of businesses and the government has enough accounting tricks up its sleeve to keep this party rolling through the end of next year.


It is all planned out to crash on the next Republican President and congress. To place blame on them, to gain control again.... Just to do it all over again.
Mean while, watch the other hand.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Interest rates at zero have been stoking the market. When the Fed starts tightening--and it will at some point--look out below.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:12 AM
 
Location: CO
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Or will it crash before he leaves office?

We all know this growth is phony. The question is whether the collusion of businesses and the government has enough accounting tricks up its sleeve to keep this party rolling through the end of next year.
Here's a hint. Profits are non-partisan.

Mixing politics and portfolios is a fool's errand.

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We all know this growth is phony.
Don't fight the tape. Been trading long or is this your 1st rodeo?
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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Wrong question, wrong framework.

The US rally is primarily due to the Republican success in slowing down the anti-growth, anti-jobs agenda of the Democrats. Therefore, the needless burdens inflicted on the economy by Democrat policies have ended up slowing growth, not ending it, producing a steady economy with sub-par growth but no boom.

There will not be a bust until we have a boom. And Democrats have regulated and legislated booms out of existence for the present.
Not sure if serious... You just can't tell around here.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:29 AM
 
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Translation: the economic success under this administration needs an explanation.
The explanation is that with super-low interest rates and easy access to capital, the stock market is the only real place for people to currently invest their money. Is someone with money to invest going to put it in a "high-yield" savings account that earns 0.75%? Not when the stock market averages over 10x that return.

The rich have gotten richer at a faster pace under Obama than in almost any other time in history. Money has been cheap to borrow for several years, which has led to market gains that do not match what's happening in the economy. Real unemployment is still high. Wages are stagnant.

This is undeniably a bubble, and it's going to burst. When it does, the rich will bail out and buy back in after the dust has settled, which is what they do after every bubble, and the gap between rich and poor will get even larger.
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