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View Poll Results: Do you believe the DOJ report contributed at all to the shooting.
Yes, it probably played some role. 93 70.45%
No, it had nothing to do with the shooting. 34 25.76%
I have no idea. 5 3.79%
Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-12-2015, 11:09 PM
 
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Gonna keep moving the goalposts?

Why do you refuse to engage in conversation with the protesters?
I'm not moving the goal post. Its unreasonable for me to listen to someone yelling about their leaders when they have shown a consistent apathy when it comes time to hiring them. Its unreasonable to listen to someone yell about being oppressed while its evident their community does not vote. It's also unreasonable to listen to protest when they use misinformed opinions. When you protest in the name of person who attacked a cop, as if he's the victim, I can not take you serious.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:10 PM
 
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Looks like we have 68 idiots here who think that just because the DOJ does what it's supposed to do then it's all their fault if somebody gets shot
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:13 PM
 
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Oh hell.... everything! is racism.... Next
Then what the hell would you call it when 12 year old black boys with toy guns are shot dead while grown white men pointing real guns at human beings are praised as real Americans?
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:42 PM
 
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Well, let's see....

Soon after he was elected, Obama said that the Cambridge Police acted "stupidly" when it arrested a black Harvard professor, even while admitting that he didn't know what had happened.

What should Obama have said, if anything? "I don't know what happened, so I can't comment."

Then came the Trayvon Martin case. The liberal media posted pictures of Trayvon as a little 12-year-old boy even though he was much older and they had pictures of him at his current age.

Then, liberal MSNBC edited the 911 tape to make it sound like George Zimmerman was racist.

Then the New Black Panthers put out a bounty on Zimmerman and his family had to go into hiding.

In the midst of all this -- and before there was a trial -- Obama said that "Trayvon could be my son."

What should he have said? "Folks, we don't know what happened yet, and people should stop rushing to judgment."

Next, we have Darren Wilson shooting Michael Brown. The liberal media played it up as "police officer shoots and kills unarmed teenager." Michael Brown's teenage companion claimed that Michael had been running away from the officer with his hands up and was shot multiple times in the back.

The fact that a video quickly surfaced showing Michael Brown robbing a convenience store with his companion and assaulting a clerk half his size did not cause the liberals to hold off on their rush to judgment. They declared that Michael's death was caused by white racism and was nothing less than murder.

Al Sharpton then came to town and paid for a lavish funeral at which he thundered against white racism. Eric Holder sent the FBI and justice department officials to investigate. There were demonstrations -- "hands up, don't shoot." Facts no longer mattered. Obama, Holder, Sharpton (a known rabble rouser, liar and tax cheat), the liberal media, Democrat members of Congress, the Democrat governor of Missouri, local Democrat legislators -- all joined in.

Outside agitators from all over the country were bused into Ferguson. Months of demonstrations ensued. When a grand jury refused to charge Officer Darren Wilson after finding that the forensic evidence and credible witness testimony confirmed his story that he was lawfully defending himself, Michael Brown's uncle screamed "Burn the b----h down" over and over again. Businesses were looted and burned. No investigation or charges were ever brought against the arsonists, rioters and looters, even though many were captured committing their crimes on video. No compensation was given to the business owners. No charges were brought against Brown's uncle for inciting a riot.

Instead, Obama and Holder invited the protestors to the White House and promised that "justice" would be served in the end. But the Justice Department's own investigation completely exonerated Officer Wilson. But never mind. Obama minimized that result by saying that the burden of proof against Wilson was "too high," when in fact, all the credible evidence confirmed by forensic investigation supported Wilson and none supported prosecuting Wilson. Then Holder issued a trumped up report condemning the Ferguson PD.

Darren Wilson should be given at least $10 million for the injustices committed against him by the liberal media, Obama, Holder, Sharpton, the rich athletes who raised their arms ("Hands up, don't shoot"), the Democrat Congressmembers who did the same, the Democrat governor of Missouri, Democrat Missouri legislators, and many more.

At the same time, Obama should be forced, in a national speech, to apologize to the Cambridge Police Department, George Zimmerman, Darren Wilson, white America, and the entire nation for his despicable and cowardly race baiting.

Then he should resign. And take Vice President Biden -- another race baiter ("They'll put you back in chains, that's what they'll do") with him.

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Old 03-13-2015, 12:26 AM
 
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Police are not judge, jury, and executioner.
They are if you physically attack them.

After years and years of "Cops" being on TV, there are still people dumb enough to think they can attack the police without risking getting shot and killed?

Wow.
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Old 03-13-2015, 12:34 AM
 
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You don't want to engage in a rational discussion with protesters who want their voices heard.
We hear their voices.

What they say is invalid.

"Hands up, don't shoot" -- not a true description of what happened.

"Darren Wilson is guilty" -- wrong.

It is obvious the protesters never cared about the truth and condemned Wilson before the facts had even come out.

Why should anyone listen to them?

Why should anyone think they could have a rational discussion with them?

They obviously could not, because the protesters are clearly and obviously irrational -- or just outright liars and troublemakers who need to get a life.

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Old 03-13-2015, 02:27 AM
 
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Obama and holder need to be charged with accessory to murder and attempted murder. They are both too influential and are partly responsible for the cops in ny and the two in Missouri who just got shot. Neither should see daylight again. Criminals.
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Old 03-13-2015, 03:24 AM
 
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Then what the hell would you call it when 12 year old black boys with toy guns are shot dead while grown white men pointing real guns at human beings are praised as real Americans?
I would wonder why a parent wouldn't tell a 12 year old that they shouldn't be running around with a fake gun pointing it at people in public. Not everyone can tell the difference, and it is asking for trouble.

Also the gun had the orange safety band removed, and he was scaring people in a park--which is why the police were called in the first place,


At what point are people responsible for their own behavior?

When will people learn that actions can have unanticipated consequences?

Let me add this, this creepy attitude of fostering mistrust and hate towards the police is probably the main reason the boy reached for his waistband where the gun was when the police confronted him. He didn't feel safe enough to just communicate with the police, where a tragedy would have been averted.
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Old 03-13-2015, 03:37 AM
 
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Mostly the media is responsible but Holder and Obama also should share in the responsibility. They turn a blind eye to the rampant black on white crime and then go ape Sh*t on the reverse.
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Old 03-13-2015, 03:54 AM
 
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Nope.

This falls on the Police Department. They need to clean house and start over. The neglected listening to concerns of the citizens of that community for decades. This has been boiling over for some time. Trust needs to be re-established. I think every officer in that department would be wise to resign and move. It sounds unfair, but it is for the best.


So the shootings have some justification?

That's a stretch.
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