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Old 05-24-2022, 11:39 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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War is when the old and bitter, trick the young and stupid into killing one another.-Niko Bellic
That should go in Quotes You Like. It's a great soundbite but the trick is to get both sides to stop fighting. Stopping fighting means the most brutal side is overwhelmed.
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Old 05-24-2022, 12:18 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Ask Hirohito how much Japan has "hated" the U.S. since 1946.

In a similar vein, see this post:
You're replying to a post that's 2.5 years old?

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Old 05-24-2022, 12:28 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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You're replying to a post that's 2.5 years old?

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I just realized how old this thread is. Yikes OP. Did you just get out of a coma or Cryosleep or something?
No. A parallel topic came up. There is no lack of merit. What really has changed since 2003, when I first wrote it?
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Old 05-24-2022, 01:06 PM
 
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For war to end, the ultimate victors must prosecute it to the maximum extent possible. I am not advocating attacking supermarkets and skyscrapers deliberately. Those kinds of attacks accomplish little. If fanatics seek war, they should be given what they ask for. In spades. Attempts to daintily avoid civilian casualties and negotiate prematurely lead only to prolonged and greater grief.
This is insane. So how many people do you think the US should murder to end war on the planet? The problem with the US and war is that the US is the one responsible so now you want it to have a blank check on murder.

If you want to reduce wars, then nations should go after the leaders who start wars. Goerge Bush butchered so many Iraqis, he needs to be arrested and prosecuted. Some nation starts a war? Focus efforts on assissinating leadership instead of having the idiots on the ground kill each other. Most war is over the enrichment of leadership, start killing leadership and you lose the motivation for war.
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:02 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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This is insane. So how many people do you think the US should murder to end war on the planet? The problem with the US and war is that the US is the one responsible so now you want it to have a blank check on murder.
Do you want the U.S. and Western countries to collectively be punching bags?

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If you want to reduce wars, then nations should go after the leaders who start wars. Goerge Bush butchered so many Iraqis, he needs to be arrested and prosecuted. Some nation starts a war? Focus efforts on assissinating leadership instead of having the idiots on the ground kill each other. Most war is over the enrichment of leadership, start killing leadership and you lose the motivation for war.
Fortunately or unfortunately, leadership assassination is close to a "no go" zone. I have mixed feelings but there has been, informally, boundaries that even Israel observes on decapitating leadership. And trust me, there are some leaders I would love to see gone. Vladimir Putin for one. And the situations with Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot should not have been allowed to fester.

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Old 05-25-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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Fortunately or unfortunately, leadership assassination is close to a "no go" zone. I have mixed feelings but there has been, informally, boundaries that even Israel observes on decapitating leadership. And trust me, there are some leaders I would love to see gone. Vladimir Putin for one. And the situations with Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot should not have been allowed to fester.
The reason why "leaders" dont assassinate another one is because they dont want to be killed. So its ok to kill hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civlians but not ok to kill a few leaders. Then if you suggest this, you are somehow uncivilized. You have leaders like George W Bush who causes the mass murder of countless innocent people but we act like another country going after him is crossing some kind of line or somehow uncivilized. Then here you are actually acting like you support this concept because apparently the value of a POS "leader" is more valuable than hundreds of thousands of people (probably in part because you make the assumption that those innocent people killed wont be you or someone you care about).
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Old 05-25-2022, 02:41 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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The reason why "leaders" dont assassinate another one is because they dont want to be killed. So its ok to kill hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civlians but not ok to kill a few leaders. Then if you suggest this, you are somehow uncivilized. You have leaders like George W Bush who causes the mass murder of countless innocent people but we act like another country going after him is crossing some kind of line or somehow uncivilized. Then here you are actually acting like you support this concept because apparently the value of a POS "leader" is more valuable than hundreds of thousands of people (probably in part because you make the assumption that those innocent people killed wont be you or someone you care about).
I think in certain instances regime change is called for. I don't think killing Jefferson Davis would have ended the Civil War. But I think if Putin sipped some arsenic the remaining "leaders" might think better of continuing the war of folly. If Hitler were bumped off any time after 1942 ended, similarly, the war would have ended. I don't think killing LBJ would have ended the Vietnam War. Each situation is different.
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