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Old 03-21-2015, 10:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by dechatelet View Post
You know this how? From taking a poll of the unborn?

Your "life without love" sounds overdramatic to me.

So is your suggestion that adoptions wouldn't take place.

As I said, Thai babies are in high demand.

But if abortion really is the only option, they can pay for it themselves.

If they don't have the cash up front, they can go on a payment plan.

That's what people do when they buy cars.

There is no reason for abortion to be any different.

Maybe babies are in high demand but what about the older ones who are waiting to be adopted. No one seems to care about them and they end up going from foster home to foster home. And yes, these are the ones who live a life without love. And very few families will adopt a special needs child.
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Old 03-22-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter View Post
The clock for the Republicans ability to effect the timing of her confirmation starts the say they take over.

It is still less and will be less than 13 months.




Yes it is correct.

The Abortion Language In The Sex Trafficking Bill Would Make Life Harder For Rape Victims

HuffPo:

"The anti-abortion provision would renew a restriction that prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortions, except in cases of rape or incest, or if the life of the mother is in danger, and would extend the same restrictions to the compensation funds paid to victims of human trafficking."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/18/us...-congress.html

NY Times:

"The Hyde Amendment makes exceptions for rape victims, which suggests that many trafficking victims could be exempt from the provision, for example in the case of statutory rape."

Congress

SF Chronicle

"The insertion was a variation on the Hyde Amendment, a decades-old federal policy that prohibits any federal tax dollars from being spent on abortion except in extremely limited circumstances. It’s very unfortunate that the Senate Republicans felt the need to use this bill to grandstand about their opposition to abortion (the House bill didn’t have this language), but it’s also not a new policy."
So why is the language in the Human Trafficking legislation to begin with, are human trafficking victims not victims of rape or are they going to have to argue their case in a court for 9 months. That being the case their should be no issue removing the wording and we can move on with the Lynch vote.

I already stated that is was wrong to filibuster Meese because of farm subsidies but he was a shady individual and he was investigated,there was no proof of any illegal activity. He was Reagans friend and since his administration lead the league in convictions and indictments it seemed appropriate, still he should have been put up for vote after he was cleared.

So are we going to go back in time and measure the delays based on when a party took power, Meese was number one and that was 35 years ago is that the standard for the last 34 years?
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter View Post
The clock for the Republicans ability to effect the timing of her confirmation starts the say they take over.

It is still less and will be less than 13 months.




Yes it is correct.

The Abortion Language In The Sex Trafficking Bill Would Make Life Harder For Rape Victims

HuffPo:

"The anti-abortion provision would renew a restriction that prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortions, except in cases of rape or incest, or if the life of the mother is in danger, and would extend the same restrictions to the compensation funds paid to victims of human trafficking."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/18/us...-congress.html

NY Times:

"The Hyde Amendment makes exceptions for rape victims, which suggests that many trafficking victims could be exempt from the provision, for example in the case of statutory rape."

Congress

SF Chronicle

"The insertion was a variation on the Hyde Amendment, a decades-old federal policy that prohibits any federal tax dollars from being spent on abortion except in extremely limited circumstances. It’s very unfortunate that the Senate Republicans felt the need to use this bill to grandstand about their opposition to abortion (the House bill didn’t have this language), but it’s also not a new policy."
Some of the references you posted indicated this provision would make it more difficult for human trafficking victims.

I will ask you again, what is the point of putting this language into a human trafficking bill, are victims of human trafficking not rape victims.

Yes still less than 13 months so that is the standard that was set 30 years ago?
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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More hostage taking by the GOP. What does one thing have to do with the other? Not a thing. But the GOP will grab whatever hostage happens to be handy at the moment. Why not debate the issue in contention on its own merits? Oh, yeah, that's a little too much like governing, something the GOP has no interest in ever doing.

It should be noted, as well, that Republicans believe women who are sold into slavery should be forced to bear the children of their oppressors. Par for the course for the GOP.
Just think of it as the Harry Reid policy cycle.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:01 PM
 
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Maybe babies are in high demand but what about the older ones who are waiting to be adopted. No one seems to care about them and they end up going from foster home to foster home. And yes, these are the ones who live a life without love. And very few families will adopt a special needs child.
Even if I agreed with you that the solution is to murder the babies, the mothers can still go on a payment plan and pay for the abortion themselves.

No different than buying a car.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:54 AM
 
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Just think of it as the Harry Reid policy cycle.
Yep, when its harry, it freaking great stuff going on...when the repubs are doing the exact same thing...it's hostage taking...

The lefties are amazing....
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Old 03-30-2015, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So now congress let another week pass and now they are off on vacation for 2 weeks. I know it's not the republicans because they won't own this time, it's a vacation, also need to subtract snow days, presidents week, MLK day . This is getting up there by any standard. Maybe at this point they just want to leave Holder in for the remainder, have they changed their minds or will there be avoid in their lives when Holder leaves?

Quote:

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans bolted for a two-week spring recess with the
confirmation of Loretta E. Lynch as attorney general in jeopardy, and themselves
in a quandary: Accept a qualified nominee they oppose because she backs President Obama’s policies or reject her and live with an attorney general they despise, Eric H. Holder Jr.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/30/us...dary.html?_r=0
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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He's right this is an embarrassment.

Quote:
Washington
(CNN)President Barack Obama blasted the Senate Friday for stalling on the
nomination of Loretta Lynch to be the next attorney general, the longest wait
for a nominee to lead the Justice Department in three decades.



"Enough. Enough. Call Loretta Lynch for a vote,
get her confirmed, let her do her job. This is embarrassing," Obama told
reporters during a joint White House press conference with Italian Prime
Minister Matteo Renzi.


Obama on Loretta Lynch delay: Embarrassing - CNN.com
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Originally Posted by HeyJude514 View Post
More hostage taking by the GOP. What does one thing have to do with the other? Not a thing. But the GOP will grab whatever hostage happens to be handy at the moment. Why not debate the issue in contention on its own merits? Oh, yeah, that's a little too much like governing, something the GOP has no interest in ever doing.

It should be noted, as well, that Republicans believe women who are sold into slavery should be forced to bear the children of their oppressors. Par for the course for the GOP.
LMAO! Look how many bills went to the floor under Reid! Your post is laughable at best and shows a shear lack of any comprehension of what's been going on for the last 6 1/2 years.
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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Around 130 days for her confirmation and still counting, do they love Holder that much?

The issue is a provision in the human trafficking bill that allows victims of human trafficking to receive funding for abortions.

McConnell: No Lynch vote unless Democrats relent on bill - CNN.com
So McConnell is not justifying this because Lynch thinks Obama's shredding of the Constitution over immigration is legal?

This just shows why I have no respect for this moron.
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