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Old 03-18-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I made a living at one time catching expense report cheats amongst other corporate investigative duties . Many a middle level managers and a few executives found their careers sidelined and few ended up in jail.
My brother started out as an internal investigator before going Federal LEO. Exposed one of the upcomng C-level types groomed for CEO status. My brother was let go with plenty of severance pay and the affair was hushed over. Big MNC operation as well.
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:47 AM
 
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My brother started out as an internal investigator before going Federal LEO. Exposed one of the upcomng C-level types groomed for CEO status. My brother was let go with plenty of severance pay and the affair was hushed over. Big MNC operation as well.
Dealt with this issue a few times. Luckily the Director of the our Division reported directly to the COO/CFO both of them ex-FBI investigators.
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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Do you have any actual information indicating that this behavior is more common now than it was fifty, or a hundred and fifty, years ago? Or are you taking a single case of a corrupt person whose background you aren't familiar with, and extrapolating your imaginary psychoanalysis to an entire generation of people?
Lots of information on the Millennial generation for those of you who are inclined to do your own research. I'm not here to hold your hand. But I will point you to www.google.com.
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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What he did has been done by so many politicians and it's amazing someone would start a thread not realizing that.
No, what's amazing is that you don't understand that equivocation is a logical fallacy. Also, yours is a particularly specious argument considering that laws and ethics rules have changed over the years. Embarrassing post for you, indeed.
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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No, what's amazing is that you don't understand that equivocation is a logical fallacy. Also, yours is a particularly specious argument considering that laws and ethics rules have changed over the years. Embarrassing post for you, indeed.
Your OP is based off an anecdotal fallacy.

Please... continue.
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: North America
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It's pretty simple really. Schock was 27 years old when elected to office. His actions are absolutely greedy, but most likely are the result of a generation of babies being given "participation trophies" and feeling entitled to stuff that they didn't earn.

Let's hope that the Millennials can put someone out there that actually knows what hard work, earning what you have, and ethics actually means. Otherwise, we're doomed. Schock's demise is unfortunately not unexpected given what we already know about this generation.
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: North America
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Lots of information on the Millennial generation for those of you who are inclined to do your own research. I'm not here to hold your hand. But I will point you to www.google.com.
Meaning that you are pulling the argument out of your ******* and can't back it up .
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Good sales guys, Repubs/Dems/Independents, know how to pad their expense account without being caught. We learned it from guys working back in the 1970s/1980s,etc.

Kid was a rookie at the craft.

Nothing to see here.

Remember the congressional post office scam where members would purchase thousands of dollars of postage stamps for alleged constituant outreach and then sell the stamps and pocket the money for personal use?

Remember the congressional bank scam where members would right bad checks and never have to pay back the money?
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: North America
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No, what's amazing is that you don't understand that equivocation is a logical fallacy. Also, yours is a particularly specious argument considering that laws and ethics rules have changed over the years. Embarrassing post for you, indeed.
They have and there was a high amount of corruption in those days as well. I guess James Curley and Tom Pendergast were just outliers in your mind .
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Do you have any actual information indicating that this behavior is more common now than it was fifty, or a hundred and fifty, years ago? Or are you taking a single case of a corrupt person whose background you aren't familiar with, and extrapolating your imaginary psychoanalysis to an entire generation of people?
Hmm.... curious that you should ask such a question...
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