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Old 03-20-2015, 06:21 AM
 
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I would like to hear the republican party leadership rebuke any racism in their party and say there there is no room for racism in the republican party and that if a person is voting republican for racist reason that they would rather not have their vote.

The party would no longer be viable, however, if the racist followed the advice.
Would you like to hear the Democrat party rebuke any arsonists in their party and make a public announcement that there is no room for arson in the Democrat party?

There's no more need for the Republicans make such an announcement about racists than there for the Democrats to make an announcement about arsonists. Because neither rampant Republican racism nor rampant Democrat arson exists.

The Party would no longer be viable without racists? If that were the case, then the racism should be so blindingly obvious given that there are 50 million registered Republicans that the courts should be backed up for years with the discrimination cases on the dockets. After all, if getting rid of the racists would reduce the Republicans from being 50 million strong to being unviable, the streets across America must be littered with a vast army of racists. So where are they? They're nowhere. They don't exist.

Each of your claims just gets more outlandish than the last. And you never, ever have any evidence whatsoever. You claim this is a rampant social problem and yet can't bring up even one solitary supporting piece of evidence. Does that ever penetrate your consciousness? Do you realize that you sound exactly like those conspiracy whackos who think aliens are secretly running the government?

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Old 03-20-2015, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Of the 10 states in which both senators voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (all Southern Democrats), only Virginia and Florida currently have Democratic senators. What happened? Why does the GOP currently control almost all of the seats held by legislators who opposed the bill?
Uh uh..... You haven't noticed the population shift from the north to the south and sun belt states? You could fire a cannon through Downtown Atlanta on Friday at noon and not hit a GA native over the age of 30.

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Basically he was saying to use abstraction in place of the overt racism of n'ggr, n'ggr, n'ggr, because they could be more successful that way, while still hurting blacks more than whites based upon advocacy of policies that serve as proxy for racist intentions. In fact, I would argue that such is really the new racism of today. One in which racism is now via proxy.
No he was NOT instructing people to use abstractions, here, for the umpteenth time is what he actually said.

"But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other."

His point was the progressive intolerance for racist speech and it was going to continue progressing until it (racist speech) was no more.

How anyone can miss that simple message is hard to understand. What I do understand is that it is in the Democrats own, best self interest to continuously mischaracterize the quote so they can deflect from their racist past.

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Let's see -- the last year the KKK had a modicum of relevance to American politics was in the 1920s. The FIRST year the southern strategy was used to great effect was 1980. (Nixon tried to use it in the late 60s and 70s, but it wasn't effective.) It was used in the 90s and the 2000s. Why is it so hard for you to face reality on this, pg? The GOP courts the racist vote.
The KKK was pretty relevant in the Democrat South in the 1960s when they were busy murdering people and bombing churches.
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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Would you like to hear the Democrat party rebuke any arsonists in their party and make a public announcement that there is no room for arson in the Democrat party?

There's no more need for the Republicans make such an announcement about racists than there for the Democrats to make an announcement about arsonists. Because neither rampant Republican racism nor rampant Democrat arson exists.

The Party would no longer be viable without racists? If that were the case, then the racism should be so blindingly obvious given that there are 50 million registered Republicans that the courts should be backed up for years with the discrimination cases on the dockets. After all, if getting rid of the racists would reduce the Republicans from being 50 million strong to being unviable, the streets across America must be littered with a vast army of racists. So where are they? They're nowhere. They don't exist.

Each of your claims just gets more outlandish than the last. And you never, ever have any evidence whatsoever. You claim this is a rampant social problem and yet can't bring up even one solitary supporting piece of evidence. Does that ever penetrate your consciousness? Do you realize that you sound exactly like those conspiracy whackos who think aliens are secretly running the government?
It's like this. Some times you cannot smell your own crap. If you are used to a smell....you don't smell anything. But if I walk in the bathroom after you have taken a crap.....Woooooaaaaa....light a match up in this...

Really....it's like being from the Midwest. People from the Midwest do not think that we have an accent....we just think people from other regions do. I just think that the Republicans cannot smell their own crap......but it stinks.....and you do not think it stinks because you are used to smelling it. Now, democrats have their own stench too....but its a different smell than republicans.

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Old 03-20-2015, 06:45 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I do not know the definition of "Real Blacks". Regardless....these individuals political interest are antithetical to the political interest of the masses of blacks.
Explain why, please.

The Democrat Party has done nothing for blacks, but to keep them enslaved - enslaved to the government.
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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I do not know the definition of "Real Blacks". Regardless....these individuals political interest are antithetical to the political interest of the masses of blacks.
...in your opinion, not theirs.
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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It was used in the 90s and the 2000s. Why is it so hard for you to face reality on this, pg? The GOP courts the racist vote.
Can you support this?
I do recall race being called a factor with John Murtha saying his Democrat constituents in western PA were racists.
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:51 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Even weirder is that the very first legal slave owner in america, happened to be black.

But people in this country, like the OP are ignorant to history, and like to believe only blacks were slaves.
Slavery is alive and well in the world today, but people like the OP will not acknowledge that. They'd rather forget that America ended slavery. They have too much to gain by continuing the "white oppression" slavery mantra.

Also, it was African Muslims that ran the Atlantic Slave Trade, not European whites.
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:55 AM
 
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Would you like to hear the Democrat party rebuke any arsonists in their party and make a public announcement that there is no room for arson in the Democrat party?

There's no more need for the Republicans make such an announcement about racists than there for the Democrats to make an announcement about arsonists. Because neither rampant Republican racism nor rampant Democrat arson exists.

The Party would no longer be viable without racists? If that were the case, then the racism should be so blindingly obvious given that there are 50 million registered Republicans that the courts should be backed up for years with the discrimination cases on the dockets. After all, if getting rid of the racists would reduce the Republicans from being 50 million strong to being unviable, the streets across America must be littered with a vast army of racists. So where are they? They're nowhere. They don't exist.

Each of your claims just gets more outlandish than the last. And you never, ever have any evidence whatsoever. You claim this is a rampant social problem and yet can't bring up even one solitary supporting piece of evidence. Does that ever penetrate your consciousness? Do you realize that you sound exactly like those conspiracy whackos who think aliens are secretly running the government?
He has a big chip o his shoulder. Don't waste your time.
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:55 AM
 
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Uh uh..... You haven't noticed the population shift from the north to the south and sun belt states? You could fire a cannon through Downtown Atlanta on Friday at noon and not hit a GA native over the age of 30.



No he was NOT instructing people to use abstractions, here, for the umpteenth time is what he actually said.

"But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other."

His point was the progressive intolerance for racist speech and it was going to continue progressing until it (racist speech) was no more.

How anyone can miss that simple message is hard to understand. What I do understand is that it is in the Democrats own, best self interest to continuously mischaracterize the quote so they can deflect from their racist past.



The KKK was pretty relevant in the Democrat South in the 1960s when they were busy murdering people and bombing churches.
He is alluding to getting rid of the problem through abstraction. He did not say that people’s attitudes were changing, he said get rid of the issue one way or THE OTHER. The OTHER way is via abstraction. If the hearts and motives of the people are not changing (that’s one way…the preferred way) then their objectives need be expressed through abstraction (the other way) and hence giving the appearance that the race issue is going away.
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Old 03-20-2015, 07:02 AM
 
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Explain why, please.

The Democrat Party has done nothing for blacks, but to keep them enslaved - enslaved to the government.
Wow...now that is a little hyperbolic don't you think? Did you realize that blacks have had their greatest economic growth, post reconstruction, during the era of....BIG GOVERNMENT? The poverty rate of blacks have gone from 60% at the end of the 50's......to a low of 24% under Clinton, then started rising again after the Bush presidency.

Just sayin...
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