What Party is responsible for the Trans Pacific Partnership?

[Redshadowz]

Originally Posted by J746NEW

Multinational Corporations and Big Banks pretty much own our government given the amount of money, lobbying and revolving door positions they hold.

What we are really talking about is the "global economy". The goal of capitalism, is to maximize economic activity around the world. Once an economy is "developed", growth will be slow. So all the real money to be made is always in "developing economies".

Corporations and financiers, functionally have no "nation", they are always international in nature. They will go wherever profits can be made, and as a general rule, more profits can be made in low-wage undeveloped countries than in first-world countries. But, they will only invest in these foreign companies(IE move factories there), if it is both advantageous, as well as secure.

Multinational corporations and international bankers will invest in China, because it is a relatively safe investment, the Chinese government will protect their interests, and the society itself is fairly stable. On the other hand, investing in much of the Middle-East and Africa would be too risky.


The TPP is all about making it easier for US corporations to invest in Asia, by creating a trade-regulation agency, to guarantee security and compliance.


The multinational corporations and international bankers will make a lot of money, it'll further grow the gap between rich and poor, it'll put many union companies out of business, and it'll undermine American sovereignty. But honestly, we still have to do it.


The reason the TPP is necessary, is because China has just created the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. It is trying to spread its influence and markets in Asia, and it basically wants to do the same thing American corporations/banks want to do with the TPP.

To avoid basically a "trade war" with China, and to maintain America's sphere of influence in East Asia. The United States will have to join some kind of trade union with China and its neighbors.


If you want to blame anyone, blame capitalism.

[J746NEW]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

I am responsible for my own wellbeing.

And Big Business is supposed to be responsible for their own well being as well.

And Politicians in accordance with the Constitution is supposed to be responsible for all people of this nation.
And they do that via policies to benefit all.

Nafta, The TPP, GAT and so on were at the expense to majority of American's
The wealthy elite in this country are stealing from American's by utilizing cheap labor overseas and selling it back to American's/

Eventually you run out of other people's money and we would have run out a long time ago were it not for the Bail Outs and eternal QE

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

[J746NEW]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

If you want to blame anyone, blame capitalism.

So Capitalists of America hate the Constitution and Nationalism?

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

[J746NEW]

Liberalization is never good for workers. As long as goods and capital move freely and workers do not they have almost no power in the marketplace.

Lets see those Pro Globalists agree to complete open borders for ALL countries with cheap transportation across the world anywhere you want to go.

[Redshadowz]

Originally Posted by J746NEW

So Capitalists of America hate the Constitution and Nationalism?

The real capitalists do whatever earns them the most money, or gives them more power. If nationalism can earn them more money than internationalism, they'll support nationalism. If internationalism can earn them more money than nationalism, they'll support internationalism.


Don't be deluded to believe that capital has any sort of national loyalty. Corporations are functionally sociopaths.


Someone who supports capitalism is not the same thing as a capitalist. A capitalist is a specific class of people. I support capitalism(free-market capitalism), but I'm not a capitalist.