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This is who Obama is trying to make an agreement with
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Muslim scholars teach that Muslims two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."
Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.
If it ratchets down the tension and leads to credible inspections of the nuclear sites it will be more than any other diplomat has accomplished in the last 15 years. I do not care what he has to say to achieve progress. It is called diplomacy. Sanctions have not been working. They are only delaying the inevitable.
We should be hoping for the best, not hoping for failure. The stakes are pretty high.
Sanctions are what got Iran to the table in the first place.
I call that working.
Now sanctions are removed and Iran is off the Terror List (along with Hezbollah) as of a few days ago.
You don't give up your hand before a (good) deal is made..........unless you're a lunatic.
This shaker guy comes across as just another o-bagging shill. obama is the dumbest president we've ever had. He's a mouthpiece for Jarrett who's a tool for George Soros. Follow the money.
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And here is the irony of it all. He declared Venezuela a national security threat over their human rights violations by the government.
A lot of people with more knowlege of the situation than anyone on this board have said Iran probably already has a bomb, or at the very least, the capability to make one.
Even a couple of republicans have said all this deal does is hold of war for 10 years instead of 2 or 5.
So if you play the "reasonable"(i use that lightly) low end, then we go to war with Iran in 5 years. If you believe the "reasonable" high end, then its 10 years.
Even republican are admitting its a damned if you do damned if you dont.
Either way, the argument republicans are using against this deal is B.S. by their own logic.
lets be honest, Pakistan is done a lot worse(and owned up to it, and yet we have never invaded them. We have even partnered with them and called them a major non NATO Ally.
this thread ,and many more are just rhetoric. I hope one day we can get passed it. ( Yeah, i rambled a bit and I can admit that)
Those people do not even support their government. Yet here he is siding with the Iranian government.
This stupid fool says since the Iran leaders vowed not to develope a nuclear weapon, why are we even negotiating? What the hell are we even talking to them for if this moron takes them at their word? He talks as if we are allied with the Iranian government now.
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