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Old 01-14-2008, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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I think it would be interesting though to let him "compete" - even if it is not for medals, to see his capabilities.
While I admire (and agree) on your stance of letting him complete alongside "normal" people, it'd be very costly - flight to beijing, hotel room, space/time on the track, etc.

Truth of the matter is, tests have been run on the type of prosthetic he has. The J-shaped prosthetic has been proven to be more efficient than what your or I have.

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This man has certainly had to train - and train hard.
Every athlete that has entered the Olympics has trained hard. We're not putting him down for a lack of training.


Maybe his home country could hold an event where people with prosthetics and those without (from around the globe) can come together to compete. Now, that would be interesting.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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While I admire (and agree) on your stance of letting him complete alongside "normal" people, it'd be very costly - flight to beijing, hotel room, space/time on the track, etc.
Hey, we already have our tickets. If money is his issue, I'll pay for him!

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Truth of the matter is, tests have been run on the type of prosthetic he has. The J-shaped prosthetic has been proven to be more efficient than what your or I have.
I don't doubt that one minute. But, and this is my opinion, its time to allow those with physical disabilities, to be able to compete in the mainstream world.

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Maybe his home country could hold an event where people with prosthetics and those without (from around the globe) can come together to compete. Now, that would be interesting.
There are already, the ParaOlympics - but, again, its time for EVERYONE to compete, together. Those with disabilities should not be [SIZE=3]ostracized.[/SIZE]
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:58 PM
 
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There are already, the ParaOlympics - but, again, its time for EVERYONE to compete, together. Those with disabilities should not be [SIZE=3]ostracized.[/SIZE]
That's what I was saying - those without prosthetics and those who are "normal" could compete together.

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Lucky....
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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That's what I was saying - those without prosthetics and those who are "normal" could compete together.
Don't misunderstand - I see your point - and actually agree with you.

What I do object to is an event, such as the Olympics, keeps out a group of people who are athletes.

Perhaps what the Olympic Committee should consider (maybe they have???) is having events, at the Olympics, same events, for Para Olympians?

Mainstream these outstanding people -
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:07 PM
 
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Perhaps what the Olympic Committee should consider (maybe they have???) is having events, at the Olympics, same events, for Para Olympians?
I would agree with it, as long as the ParaOlympian technology (prosthetics and such) would make them equivalent (in terms of energy input and output) as a "normal" human body.

Or, if you want super-advanced technology competing with "normal humans" - no medals. A competition without medals.

As technology improves, combining the competition might be like having the Terminator and Average Joe race each other.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I would agree with it, as long as the ParaOlympian technology (prosthetics and such) would make them equivalent (in terms of energy input and output) as a "normal" human body.
Off topic - a little

I snow ski - sort of. I can get down a hill without killing myself

A few years ago, my wife and I were in Colorado sking - I was doing my usual snow crabbing when all of a sudden two skiers came flying by us! Not out of control at all - doing great. We met these two at the coffee hut - father and daughter it turned out. Dad was totally blind. His daughter had some sort of radio transmitter she carried and Dad could hear the signal - he followed it (I do not have a clue how it worked ). But, the point is, Dad was having a ball. He did not let his disability slow him down!

By sheer coinsidence, the very next day, again, I'm sking right along and a guy passes me - he had no legs! So help me - no legs. His poles were also his skis!

I rarely complain anymore about aches and pains -

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Old 01-14-2008, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Nobody complained when George Toporcer showed up with Cardinals in 1921 wearing eye-glasses so he could see the pitch better, and promptly batted .324. What's the difference?
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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Nobody complained when George Toporcer showed up with Cardinals in 1921 wearing eye-glasses so he could see the pitch better, and promptly batted .324. What's the difference?
Help me here: Who was the Major League pitcher(???), in the last few years, who had only one arm????
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:53 PM
 
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Nobody complained when George Toporcer showed up with Cardinals in 1921 wearing eye-glasses so he could see the pitch better, and promptly batted .324. What's the difference?
Having better vision put him at an even playing field with everybody else I assume. Plus, his glasses have no direct involvement with the actual mechanics involved in baseball. If he had some sort of prosthetics arm device than that would be another story.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:54 PM
 
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Help me here: Who was the Major League pitcher(???), in the last few years, who had only one arm????
Jim Abbott. Well, he had two arms, but his right arm was very small and had no hand.
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