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Old 03-24-2015, 10:50 AM
 
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And earlier you said Bibi doesn't like Obama. So, it goes both ways, but the important thing is that we are still allies.
The difference is, as far as I know, there have been no senior officials in Netanyahu's administration referring to President Obama as a "chicken ----". As I said, there is no trust. No one should blame Israel for not trusting their security to this particular administration, ally or not.
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Old 03-24-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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President Obama has made his dislike of Netanyahu abundantly clear. Ally or not, there is no respect or trust in that relationship and the policies that are being pursued by our Administration. Israel's existence is Netanyahu's priority, not President Obama's foreign policy.
Yup O doesn't like Bibi at all and Bibi doesn't respect O at all. Bibi will look out for Israel regardless of what O say and does.
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Old 03-24-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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The difference is, as far as I know, there have been no senior officials in Netanyahu's administration referring to President Obama as a "chicken ----". As I said, there is no trust. No one should blame Israel for not trusting their security to this particular administration, ally or not.
Yea security is one of the main reasons Bibi won elections especially when Israeli's found out the other guy real intentions
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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The difference is, as far as I know, there have been no senior officials in Netanyahu's administration referring to President Obama as a "chicken ----". As I said, there is no trust. No one should blame Israel for not trusting their security to this particular administration, ally or not.
We will never know what names (if any) they use to refer to Obama, but I think both sides (and our enemies, and enemies of Israel) know that US would come to Israel's aid if they were attacked, so the trust is still there. Bibi does not like the negotiations with Iran, but it does not mean he does not trust the US at all.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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We will never know what names (if any) they use to refer to Obama, but I think both sides (and our enemies, and enemies of Israel) know that US would come to Israel's aid if they were attacked, so the trust is still there. Bibi does not like the negotiations with Iran, but it does not mean he does not trust the US at all.
I believe The Atlantic knows exactly what name was used. Yes, you are right, Bibi does seem to still believe the US is an ally. Personally, if he still believes President Obama is an ally, I would think he is slipping as a leader.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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I see. So those people who spoke about NSA after Snowden leak were just being petulant and showing animosity against the United States? I disagree. I'd rather let them express their displeasure, and I think US has the right to say something when out allies spy on us. Germany sure made some noise when they found out we had spied on them. Petulant? Animosity? Nah. I think it is a rather natural response.
First, as you know very well by now, the spying (if there was any) was not "on us," it was on the nuclear talks.

Second, this is nothing like the Snowden situation. Here, if there was actually any spying (it now appears that the French may have voluntarily provided the Israelis the information), who was the information leaked to? To the US Congress! If your argument is that national secrets have been provided to the enemies of our country, obviously that is just flatly preposterous.

Barack Obama and his adminstration are purposefully trying to antagonize and cause harm to our ally Israel. That is what is happening here.

Clearly, the temper tantrum by the narcissist Barack Obama continues.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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I believe The Atlantic knows exactly what name was used. Yes, you are right, Bibi does seem to still believe the US is an ally. Personally, if he still believes President Obama is an ally, I would think he is slipping as a leader.
Bibi trusts Congress and the USA but not Obama and his lackeys. The fact that a member of Congress is visiting Bib shows where the real trust and friendship is.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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First, as you know very well by now, the spying (if there was any) was not "on us," it was on the nuclear talks.

Second, this is nothing like the Snowden situation. Here, if there was actually any spying (it now appears that the French may have voluntarily provided the Israelis the information), who was the information leaked to? To the US Congress! If your argument is that national secrets have been provided to the enemies of our country, obviously that is just flatly preposterous.

Barack Obama and his adminstration are purposefully trying to antagonize and cause harm to our ally Israel. That is what is happening here.

Clearly, the temper tantrum by the narcissist Barack Obama continues.

Where do you people come up with this crap?

"Clearly, the temper tantrum by the narcissist Barack Obama continues"
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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I believe The Atlantic knows exactly what name was used. Yes, you are right, Bibi does seem to still believe the US is an ally. Personally, if he still believes President Obama is an ally, I would think he is slipping as a leader.
Netanyahu believes the US is still the ally of Israel, but he is concerned by the fact that our President clearly is not. Obama is not the US, by the way. He is just one person.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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Where do you people come up with this crap?

"Clearly, the temper tantrum by the narcissist Barack Obama continues"
Open your eyes. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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