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Old 03-24-2015, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Canada
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In Florida there it appears that Senator Marco Rubio cannot. But Senator Ted Cruz from Texas can. The rules are different in the two states.
Rubio is up for re-election in 2016 for Senate Seat..So Florida law makes him give up his seat...He was elected in 2010..I have a gut feeling Rubio won't actually run..because he knows then he could lose his Potus Bid..and then by default his Senate Seat as well..Just speculating of course Can't have it both ways!!

It's my understanding that anyone who holds office whether STATE or Federal..Can't run for both...however..It all depends on their terms of office..i.e. IF someone is due to run for office in 2016 for their Senate Seat/Governor/Congress etc CANNOT RUN FOR BOTH...But since Senate in Federal Congress is a 6 year term....IF Running for another office outside of that term..no problems...So it all seems to come down to at what point of your running for other office ARE YOU when you chose to run...

If Christie runs for example..He was just re-elected in 2013...so he good to run NOW because he doesn't have to run as Gov. until 2017....In trying to be simplistic....It comes down to that one cannot run for 2 offices in the same race/period....

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Old 03-24-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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There were lots of people that had policies and dont anymore. You cant deny the facts. All ACA did as change who had policies, and how some people paid for them.

Thtas how we went from 32 million uninsured (per Obama), and not expected to fall below 30 million. Obama made a statement that 3 million teens were added to their parents plans, if these figures are true then thats millions that used to have policies, now dont.
Lots of people had junk policies.

But if you don't like ACA, don't use it. Just don't be the sleezy hypocrite Cruz is.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 06:58 PM
 
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No credible replacement offered yet, after 5 years of NO.
If you mean that the Republicans have not offered a program that socialists like, then I guess not.

However, here is an article about a Republican healthcare alternative for Obamacare that was introduced in the Senate in January of last year.

National Review

It is a solid proposal, although the universal healthcare crowd will of course not like it. If it is any consolation, they will not like it less than I and many others dislike Obamacare.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There is no hypocrisy here. We can all act to change the social contract. The social contract is never perfect for any of us. I, like most Americans, bear the burdens of the social contract and accept the benefits. Liberals do not have to worry about the hypocrite label. They are for every welfare program and for someone else to pay for them. I'd label liberals thieves.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 07:03 PM
 
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It's my understanding that anyone who holds office whether STAE or Federal..Con't run for both...however..It all depends on their terms of office..i.e. IF someone is due to run for office in 2016 for their Senate Seat/Governor/Congress etc CANNOT RUN FOR BOTH...But since Senate in Federal Congress is a 6 year term....IF Running for another office outside of that term..no problems...So it all seems to come down to at what point of your running for other office ARE YOU when you chose to run...

If Christie runs for example..He was just re-elected in 2013...so he good to run NOW because he doesn't have to run as Gov. until 2017....In trying to be simplistic....It comes down to that one cannot run for 2 offices in the same race/period....
Well, Ted is running and I am certain that he is well familiar with the law around all of this. In any case, he was first elected in 2012, so he is not up until 2018, so I don't really think it is an issue for him.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 07:05 PM
 
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Lots of people had junk policies.

But if you don't like ACA, don't use it. Just don't be the sleezy hypocrite Cruz is.
Whether or not they had junk policies is debatable, but you cant go from junk policies to "good" policies, and then CUT the cost, which again, was what we were told.

When costs didnt get reduced, the talking point switched to junk policies.

Now these people have NONE..

btw, I indeed am using it. I'm getting free insurance now thanks to you guys where previously I had a private one, and no, it wasnt junk. It was a catastrophic policy where I had a $100K deductible, and yes, I have a $100K to pay, if something would have happened.

Hows it feel to be subsidizing people like me that could afford private policies but now dont have one?
 
Old 03-24-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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There is no hypocrisy here. We can all act to change the social contract. The social contract is never perfect for any of us. I, like most Americans, bear the burdens of the social contract and accept the benefits. Liberals do not have to worry about the hypocrite label. They are for every welfare program and for someone else to pay for them. I'd label liberals thieves.
Except liberals pay huge taxes and live in blue states that pay more federal taxes than we get back (as opposed to red states). We just would rather that money go to health care for everyone than lose $40 Billion dollars on pallets during an ill-conceived war. Priorities.

NY Fed's $40 Billion Iraqi Money Trail

"By one account, the New York Fed shipped about $40 billion in cash between 2003 and 2008. In just the first two years, the shipments included more than 281 million individual bills weighing a total of 363 tons. But soon after the money arrived in the chaos of war-torn Baghdad, the paper trail documenting who controlled it all began to go cold."
 
Old 03-24-2015, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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That he vowed to shut it dowm maybe? Shut down congress for 13 days trying to defund it?

He doesn't have to use it, just pay cash for everything medical. Go on COBRA if offered. OR?

He had choices, now looks like an idiot. BUT HE HAS HEALTH INSURANCE. While many in his own state don't.

He also looks like a hypocrite.
He's vowed to shut down the IRS. Though I'm sure he still pays taxes to it.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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He's vowed to shut down the IRS. Though I'm sure he still pays taxes to it.
He sounds so...mature.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Whether or not they had junk policies is debatable, but you cant go from junk policies to "good" policies, and then CUT the cost, which again, was what we were told.

When costs didnt get reduced, the talking point switched to junk policies.

Now these people have NONE..

btw, I indeed am using it. I'm getting free insurance now thanks to you guys where previously I had a private one, and no, it wasnt junk. It was a catastrophic policy where I had a $100K deductible, and yes, I have a $100K to pay, if something would have happened.

Hows it feel to be subsidizing people like me that could afford private policies but now dont have one?
Ah, I remember now. You were investing your HSA in real estate and were very bitter that scam/loophole closed, weren't you? Or something very similar. Thus your hatred of ACA,
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