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Maybe most of his customers are Christian. What if the baker puts a sign on his door, Christian bakery. We don't make cakes for gay marriage. What would you do?
No problem. I would get a wedding cake anyway, while not letting on that it's really for a gay wedding.
So let me ask you.....do you think they care that a "huge number of people" disapprove of what they stand for? Are they losing sleep over not living their life the way YOU see fit?
Maybe they ought to drop you an e mail and "check in" with you so they can get your approval on how to live their lives?
I think they ought to just patronize a bakery that will gladly meet their need. Everyone knows that a business owner who wants your business will do a better job for you, anyway.
According to SCOTUS's HL ruling, publicly traded companies can't refuse service based on religious objection, so get a cake for a same sex wedding from any of these sources. Look at the photos; the cakes are beautiful:
Once again, many gays can pass for straight. A gay guy can walk into an anti-gay bakery and order a custom made cake for his wedding without letting on that the person he is marrying is a male, rather than a female.
Not likely. When goods/services are custom-ordered for weddings, both of the names of those to be married are submitted at the time the custom order is made. Why? Same reason why both people are liable for the debt incurred on jointly held credit cards, mortgages, auto loans, etc.
We are talking about BAKERIES, not CHURCHES. I understand it's hard to tell the difference between a business and a church sometimes, so to make it easier we are discussing the one that pays taxes.
You just cannot accept the fact that those businesses are indeed picking the sin that they want to refuse service for. So you play the typical stick your fingers in your ear game, childish.
No, in fact the way you said that, I would agree. They are refusing to service a sinful activity, but they are not refusing to serve the person during the ordinary course of business when no sinful activity is taking place. So, I do accept the fact that these business are choosing not to service sinful activities. That is exactly right.
With jjrose, you can put that information in front of him literally a thousand times, and he continues to posture as if he is completely ignorant of the basic distinctions being discussed here and that he has just joined this discussion afresh, after apparently being in a coma for the last two weeks. But we all know that he has been very much involved in this discussion here, so his feigned ignorance is not very persuasive or impressive at all.
Once again, many gays can pass for straight. A gay guy can walk into an anti-gay bakery and order a custom made cake for his wedding without letting on that the person he is marrying is a male, rather than a female. So should bakers who won't sell cakes for gay weddings be able to sue for religious damages after being deceived by a gay person? Or sue a straight person who didn't let on that he was really buying the cake for a gay friend's wedding?
No, nor do I think these Christian merchants would want to, as has been covered hundreds of times here. If they want to buy something basically off of the shelf, with no customization or a more personal level of service and involvement, they will be very much welcome by Christian merchants to do that.
Actually, it is based on sin. So if a Christian merchant is asked to cater a sacrifice of someone's child (the requester who is not a homosexual) to the ancient deity Baal, which the Bible makes very clear is an abomination to God, the Christian merchant will be in the exact same situation, and will refuse to service that event.
However, if the Baal worshippers (sinners) come in later and want to buy a generic cake for who knows what reason, the merchant will be happy to sell it to them.
If you refused to service sinners, you would very rapidly go out of business, as all people are sinners, including the Christian merchant. However, Christianity and most other religions do call their followers not to engage in sin or to encourage others to sin.
Doesn't matter. The First Amendment doesn't restrict religious freedom and the exercise of such to only churches.
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