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Old 04-01-2015, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Statists oppose the church because it maintains there is something greater than the state.

Statists oppose the Constitution because it maintains there is something greater than the state.

Statists oppose the people because the people are greater than the state and only allow the state to govern by their consent.

For the people to assert their will over the state on a religious freedom issue is intolerable for a statist.
If you open a business, you open it for ALL citizens, not just the ones you like.

Dont republicans know stuff like this makes them look bad and turns people off to the message?
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Your argument would make every American, including yourself, a supporter of executing of gays.
I'm not the hypocrite who criticizes Indiana while doing business with countries who executes gays.
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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And they like to execute Christians too but I bet you have your Iphone and Ipod sitting next to you as you use your Ipad to post on here, put Saudi gas in your carand have items from China in your house. Talk about hypocrites.
I don't buy products based on the politics of the CEO. So no hypocrisy here. I don't plan to boycott Indiana. I don't plan to boycott China. I buy products because they have value.

Try again.
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:59 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I don't buy products based on the politics of the CEO. So no hypocrisy here. I don't plan to boycott Indiana. I don't plan to boycott China. I buy products because they have value.

Try again.
You value freedom of speech and many other rights mentioned in the constitution that China does not.

By the definition you are using, that makes you a hypocrite.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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They have a point. Why are people giving the countries that do horrible things to women and gays a pass? They are hypocrites.

Again, wouldn't the best thing to do is to provide the citizens of these countries technical devices that will increase their access to information and communications? The best way to stand up to an oppressive government is information and the ability to organize (communications). Why would you want to further punish and hobble these abused citizens by denying them the tools to fight against this?
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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You value freedom of speech and many other rights mentioned in the constitution that China does not.

By the definition you are using, that makes you a hypocrite.
No, it does not. You don't even know what the word means. By the definition you are using, that makes you an idiot.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Again, wouldn't the best thing to do is to provide the citizens of these countries technical devices that will increase their access to information and communications? The best way to stand up to an oppressive government is information and the ability to organize (communications). Why would you want to further punish and hobble these abused citizens by denying them the tools to fight against this?
You missed the entire point. Nobody is saying Apple should not sell to evil countries. We are saying Tim Cook is a hypocrite for criticizing Indiana while at the same time selling to evil countries.

I don't care who Apple sells to. Just don't be a hypocrite.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Liberals don't really care about gays. They just hate people who disagree with them and threaten their power in the U.S., I.e. Conservatives.

The foreign countries who are executing gays and the foreign gays getting executed, etc. are irrelevant to liberals because they can't vote.

I didn't want to bring this up but............

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Other prominent right-wing evangelicals have also made Uganda appearances, including California's Rick Warren and Lou Engle, who founded TheCall ministry. They met with politicians, hosted rallies and public meetings, and used their influence and credibility to contribute to a culture war in Uganda much more intense and explosive than anything seen in the United States; Lively himself described the work as a "nuclear bomb" in Uganda. These conservative evangelicals later distanced themselves from the law, saying they didn't think homosexuality should be criminalized, but it was too late.
How anti-gay Christians evangelize hate abroad

Who's Helping Finance Uganda's 'Kill the Gays' Bill? You Are
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:15 PM
 
Location: North America
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Because he is a capitalist and its his job to make money for the shareholders. Yes, it really is that simple. Call it leftist if you must, but it's just the way capitalism works. The same countries violate many Christian values too. Should that mean all Christian CEOs are hypocrites for dealing with them? How about you? Are you a hypocrite for putting Saudi gas in your tank? According to your own argument the answer would be yes, but I think you know it doesn't make any sense.

The argument in the OP is weak. Let it go.
Oh snap! You just learned them a thing!
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:17 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Again, wouldn't the best thing to do is to provide the citizens of these countries technical devices that will increase their access to information and communications? The best way to stand up to an oppressive government is information and the ability to organize (communications). Why would you want to further punish and hobble these abused citizens by denying them the tools to fight against this?
Nice spin....you have a career in politics.
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