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Air Force RN Capt. Joyce Riley talks about, among other things, 10 shots in one day as a flight nurse--and all for it at the time. She became ill with a demyelinating condition after 6 months, but was never in the Iraq theater:
Moreover what kind of oafs would drink a substance designed solely to be applied topically. Remineralization occurs because fluoride ions bind with calcium as a surfactant dentifrice.
Would you ingest Neosporin to treat a scratch on your arm? Probably science-minded progressive leftists would.
The issue is whether it is dangerous or not, not whether is actually works or not.
The boys were enrolled in special education programs. Why do you think that was?
Lots of non autistic kids are in special education programs. If you have proof that these kids were diagnosed with autism prior to vaccination as you originally claimed then show it to us. You can't because there isn't any such evidence. If there was the CDC and Thompson's team would be falling all over themselves to make sure it got out to the public.
[quote=markg91359;39166036]Oh blather. They fluoridated the local water supply where I live fifteen years ago. There hasn't been a single reported case of any injury due to fluoride. The people in Colorado Springs, Colorado have always had a naturally fluoridated water supply. Its significant because it furnished a way to do dental research. Tooth decay rates in Colorado Springs could be compared with those with non-fluoridated water supplies. The result. Based on this research, Grand Rapids, Michigan artificially fluoridated its water. The result? A 60% reduction in tooth decay.
Instead of asserting that "fluoride is a huge danger to our health" provide me with statistics of fluoride-related injuries or deaths from all cities and counties with a fluoridated water supply. Can't do it can you? You can't because the problem doesn't exist.
All those who are truly interested in the public health advantages of fluoridated water might review these two links.
Fluoride consumed in very small amounts is not dangerous. It will as the amount of fluoride increases, gradually cause brown stains to form on teeth. These may detract from physical beauty, but they are not dangerous. Hundreds of communities in America now have fluoridated water and I challenge you to provide documented cases of injuries in these communities due to fluoridation.
The Shingles Vaccine does not cause shingles. There is a way to test your hypothesis. Vaccination rates for Shingles vary from state to state.
Please do not even attempt to tell a "NYC kid" about fluoride. It was put in our water probably before you were even born, or the rest of the country ever heard of it.
Lived there for 39 years until 1987, Big time health and skin issues since childhood. Ingest it? Your SKIN is the largest organ in your body. It causes big time problems just with that. Move out of NYC to Long Island without fluoride in water? Night and Day. Move back to another area (SW Florida) with fluoride in water? Health problems again! Bottled water did not help until we changed the bath and shower heads. Yeah, "trace" amount are fine. Right. Trace amounts in a shower too? Oh, yeah, it did wonders for my teeth too growing up! Cavities? I lost half my teeth as a teen. My kids growing up without fluoride in water had no problems. When their pediatrician on LI said they need fluoride tables, I say no way. WHO was right????
I do not want to get into greater detail. I could write a paper about doctors, steroids, cortisone, etc., until I LEARNED from experience what these chemicals can do to a person for over half a century.
Lots of non autistic kids are in special education programs. If you have proof that these kids were diagnosed with autism prior to vaccination as you originally claimed then show it to us. You can't because there isn't any such evidence. If there was the CDC and Thompson's team would be falling all over themselves to make sure it got out to the public.
Oh blather. They fluoridated the local water supply where I live fifteen years ago....
...Please do not even attempt to tell a "NYC kid" about fluoride. It was put in our water probably before you were even born, or the rest of the country ever heard of it.
That's another thing, fluoridation is only a very recent phenomenon. Even NYC didn't inject it into their municipal tap until 1965; most large cities not until the mid 1980s. The program is not historical U.S. writ, and there is a poor provenance for it unless you also count the European wartime camp water that was fluoridated by the National Socialist German Workers Party.
These populations are mentally operating on only a few cylinders compared to earlier generations. China doesn't fluoridate; most European countries don't.
I'm glad I was vaccinated. My kids were vaccinated. We protect those morons, somewhat, who aren't. And when the "herd" of protection is gone, my generation and our kids, Darwinism will prevail.
It's the vaccinated kids who are putting EVERYONE at risk, by carrying the "weakened" but attenuated virus around, right after they get the vaccination.
Plus, by injecting toxins like mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum into muscle tissue, immunity is sent into a state of shock, so the worst thing you could do is get a vaccine and then hang around people who also recently got vaccinated, especially during the first few weeks.
The vaccine viruses do not make people sick - because they are weakened. That applies to the person receiving the vaccine and contacts.
Please provide a link to a scientific source stating that anything in a vaccine sends immunity into a "state of shock".
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You missed the recent Thompson debacle?
The "Thompson debacle" is a manufactured anti-vax controversy. The original conclusions of the DeStephano study were reviewed and upheld.
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Data was not falsified by Wakefield.
From HuffPo:
"Merck, the pharmaceutical giant, is facing a slew of controversies over its Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine following numerous allegations of wrongdoing from different parties in the medical field, including two former Merck scientists-turned-whistleblowers. A third whistleblower, this one a scientist at the Centers for Disease Control, also promises to bring Merck grief following his confession of misconduct involving the same MMR vaccine.
"The controversies will find Merck defending itself and its vaccine in at least two federal court cases after a U.S. District judge earlier this month threw out Merck's attempts at dismissal. Merck now faces federal charges of fraud from the whistleblowers, a vaccine competitor and doctors in New Jersey and New York. Merck could also need to defend itself in Congress: The staff of representative Bill Posey (R-Fla) -- a longstanding critic of the CDC interested in an alleged link between vaccines and autism -- is now reviewing some 1,000 documents that the CDC whistleblower turned over to them."
The legal proceeding you are describing has nothing to do with safety of the vaccine or autism.
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His statement that he released via his lawyer was clear. He stated that he and his team intentionally omitted statistically significant findings that altered the conclusion of the study. It is lame that he lawyered up and has been silent about it since. It doesn't change the wrongdoing that he and his team did in the original study.
The original study was audited and the conclusions upheld. Thompson may disagree, but that does not mean he is the one who is right.
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No Juram, the following is Dr. Thompson:
"My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention, where I have worked since 1998.
"I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism.
Thompson apparently is weak in his understanding of statistics. Analysis of a subgroup of five subjects in a larger study is problematic. Small groups may be too small to pick up true positive findings. They are also notorious for suggesting significant findings when there are none. Just the addition or subtraction of one subject might alter the significance calculation.
The original study has been audited and the conclusions upheld.
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Air Force RN Capt. Joyce Riley talks about, among other things, 10 shots in one day as a flight nurse--and all for it at the time. She became ill with a demyelinating condition after 6 months, but was never in the Iraq theater:
She talks about Gulf War Illness, and VA treatment. Hep B vax also apparently has a very bad rep.
The fact that she had vaccines and developed an illness does not mean the vaccines caused the illness. How many others got multiple vaccines and had no problems at all?
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Lots of non autistic kids are in special education programs. If you have proof that these kids were diagnosed with autism prior to vaccination as you originally claimed then show it to us. You can't because there isn't any such evidence. If there was the CDC and Thompson's team would be falling all over themselves to make sure it got out to the public.
So you think that whatever condition caused them to be in special programs before the vaccine was not autism and they only developed autism after they got the vaccine, despite being in special ed before that.
That's another thing, fluoridation is only a very recent phenomenon. Even NYC didn't inject it into their municipal tap until 1965; most large cities not until the mid 1980s. The program is not historical U.S. writ, and there is a poor provenance for it unless you also count the European wartime camp water that was fluoridated by the National Socialist German Workers Party.
These populations are mentally operating on only a few cylinders compared to earlier generations. China doesn't fluoridate; most European countries don't.
Fluoride in Municipal water a "new" thing? Better check your source.
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