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Originally Posted by spectator11040
Just a few days ago, the Supreme Leader ayatollah Khomeini shouted "Death to America!"
“Death to America” is often chanted by the crowds at rallies in Iran. In fact, the slogan has been chanted for more than three decades at state events, including Friday prayers.
Iran's clerics say the slogan “reflects the Islamic never-ending doctrine of resistance to imperialism, and also symbolizes Iran's strength."
The Iranian Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) recently made clear that the United States “is still the great Satan and the number one enemy of the (Islamic) revolution, and the Islamic Republic and the Iranian nation".
Khamenei himself has in the past referred to the United States as “Satan”, claiming that the United States is “the greatest violator of human rights in the world.”
Khamenei also challenged the message to Iranians by Obama, in which the president said the nuclear talks represented the best opportunity in decades to pursue a different relationship between the two countries. The Iranian goal is hegemony over the region, and that policy will not change. In fact, the bomb would give them instant hegemony and set off a nuclear arms race. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey would either purchase a bomb or develop one. Egypt and Jordan have already signed agreements with Russia to build nuclear reactors, in anticipation of an Obama cave-in the nuclear negotiations.
The aggressive and radical Islamic nature of the regime ensures that it will always be an arch enemy of the US. It is only a matter of time before it possesses a nuclear-armed missile capable of hitting America.
And how many of these "Death to America" Bozos have you ever seen putting their own sorry asses on the line?
And IF their goal is "hegemony over the region", it should be left to the countries of the region to counter that goal.
I'll note Khruschev threatened to bury us yet somehow we managed to survive without nuking the USSR, trash talking is simply not a viable reason for a war of choice.
If I was in Iran, and lived through the US supporting and giving Iraq Chemical Weapons, to kill my Countrymen, and seen the Invasion of Iraq, by the US, its one time friend, and what they did to those people, and the Country, I would want to have all kinds of Nukes to protect myself from the US.
I've said this many times. You fight to protect yourself and your country not your government.
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Originally Posted by Nemesisxx
I happen to agree that the US shouldn't be the world police. I also like the fact that at least 3 Arab countries that normally aren't friends with Israel is working together to form plans against Iran. Heck it is nice to see Saudi taking a leading role in Yemen
EXACTLY! And I believe the only way to encourage the countries of the region to work together at stabilizing the region is to place more and more of the burden on them, to let them know they're responsible for policing their own region.
Yes, in the event of a massed bomber attack by the Soviets or an ICBM attack.
Iran is not capable of doing either.
Nonetheless, you're welcome to remain hiding under your desk.
I guess next they'll start rolling dice.
I'm waiting for, "The Ouija Board says so...."
Self-Fulfilling Prophecy The fallacy occurs when the act of prophesying will itself produce the effect that is prophesied, but the reasoner doesn’t recognize this and believes the prophesy is a significant insight.
Since we all know the dog is going to snarl and snap at you, you should continue to beat, kick, torture and harass the dog at every opportunity....
.... until it actually does.
Then you'll be right.
There's no such thing. That's fear-mongering at it's finest.
Prophesying...
Mircea
Love the analogy! People b*** and moan about Iran screaming death to America, yet we have the warmongers like McCain and others saying we should bomb them! Can you say hypocrisy?
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Originally Posted by wade52
Iran is less of a threat to the USA than I am to Chuck Norris.
Indeed.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
I'll water your lawn for you since you are going over there to fight them. When do you think you'll get back?
I have a better idea, it's a bit dangerous for you to do that, so send some teenagers over there and let them sacrifice their lives for your causes even though no nation has attacked us.
LOL! For a small fee, I'll mow his lawn in his absence.
Just a few days ago, the Supreme Leader ayatollah Khomeini shouted "Death to America!"
“Death to America” is often chanted by the crowds at rallies in Iran. In fact, the slogan has been chanted for more than three decades at state events, including Friday prayers.
Iran's clerics say the slogan “reflects the Islamic never-ending doctrine of resistance to imperialism, and also symbolizes Iran's strength."
The Iranian Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) recently made clear that the United States “is still the great Satan and the number one enemy of the (Islamic) revolution, and the Islamic Republic and the Iranian nation".
Khamenei himself has in the past referred to the United States as “Satan”, claiming that the United States is “the greatest violator of human rights in the world.”
Khamenei also challenged the message to Iranians by Obama, in which the president said the nuclear talks represented the best opportunity in decades to pursue a different relationship between the two countries. The Iranian goal is hegemony over the region, and that policy will not change. In fact, the bomb would give them instant hegemony and set off a nuclear arms race. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey would either purchase a bomb or develop one. Egypt and Jordan have already signed agreements with Russia to build nuclear reactors, in anticipation of an Obama cave-in the nuclear negotiations.
The aggressive and radical Islamic nature of the regime ensures that it will always be an arch enemy of the US. It is only a matter of time before it possesses a nuclear-armed missile capable of hitting America.
Yes some of their leaders said bad things ( I think we have heard that before) still the younger and more educated Iranians are more reasonable and there is hope for the future. They have some issues but still one of the ME countries most like the us.
I recall negotiating with the Soviet Union after they actually did something like putting missiles in Cuba, Iran hasn't done anything to us.
You're getting ahead of yourself with other nations getting nuclear capability.
My point? Is it not obvious?
Iran cannot be allowed to be armed with nuclear weapons.
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