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Say that when inspectors have verified no operating centrifuges, removal of all weapon grade uranium from Iran and stored somewhere under UN world court control, and with the blessing of the US Senate, the US will temporarily lift its economic sanctions on Iran, subject to review every 60 days for the next 100 years, and any violation of the terms of the deal will result in immediate resumption of sanctions and additional punitive sanctions for back-sassing us.
But like Euro or American goofs, he'll do what Iran wants first and hope they hold up their end of the bargain, and the future agreement will be written exactly that way. Do things for Iran first, and maybe later on iran will do what they are supposed, buy probably not and who cares since I won't be in office by then.
I'm finding it interesting that you went from a statement of uncertainty "there's no deal written out yet" to a statement of surety "Obama will give them everything they want".
The talks have already been extended twice as part of more than a decade of diplomatic attempts to curb Tehran’s nuclear advance. Like everything Obama does, he sees no consequences if he fails. No consequences for him – for our country, however ….
What consequences?
Might I remind you that Bush walked away from negotiating with NK and they went ahead and got nukes.
What harm did extending the deadline do beside hurting your feelings? Or would you rather we invade Iran, too?
Obama's remarks were carried live on Iranian TV! That is simply mind boggling. It's not Nixon:China or Reagan:Soviet Union, but if it comes to fruition, the deal with Iran is definitely legacy material for Obama.
You may think a U.S. negotiated deal with Iran will be the president’s legacy, but the way things are going, Obama may go down as the Chamberlain of this century.
Obama's remarks were carried live on Iranian TV! That is simply mind boggling. It's not Nixon:China or Reagan:Soviet Union, but if it comes to fruition, the deal with Iran is definitely legacy material for Obama.
And that's one of the primary reasons Republican's wanted negotiations to fail. Obama cannot be the president that (whether credit is due or not) wrapped-up two meaningless wars, got Bin Laden, AND thawed relations with two of our biggest enemies. That is serious foreign policy legacy material.
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I guess not all Republicans. I was very surprised. Good to see something done on that side of the
world, not involving troops
Because Pat is a xenophobic old crank. He was "out there" back in the day, but is a sane intellectual compared to the current crop of pants-on-head derpers.
His The American Conservative is a good read when looking for nuanced, non-insane conservative viewpoints.
You may think a U.S. negotiated deal with Iran will be the president’s legacy, but the way things are going, Obama may go down as the Chamberlain of this century.
Would you rather we start bombing Iran and send in ground troops?
I think the conservatives are in shock right now. They were really sure that Obama's team would fail to reach a deal with Iran. I think they've been hoping for another decade long war that cost trillions of dollars just to spite Obama.
The conservatives always knew Obama would reach a deal with Iran because he was ready, even eager, to sell out his country, Israel and the rest of the non-terrorist world just to be able to say he'd made the deal. Leftist morons never care about the consequences of their actions, only their intent.
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