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I'm not reading all of this thread because I know it will turn into a black/Obama/bigot/racist-fest. Usually does.
I chose "other". I'm also a bit biased since I am a Christian, but I'll try to answer in a neutral manner, based on my experiences and observations.
Christians have their beliefs and values, and for the most part, just want to be left alone. Radicals want to stir the pot. A christian is not necessarily a radical, and vice versa.
Radical liberals want to punish everyone who doesn't agree with them. Activists are the radicals who pick the fights. Not all activists are radicals and not all radicals are activists.
I do believe there are liberals who are intolerant of others in the name of their version of tolerance. The radicals will seek out the fight. They'll make a ruckus. They'll belittle, berate, insult, attack, etc. This applies on both sides of the aisle.
How many people have committed crimes, or attacks, in the name of their belief? We have the ELF and the abortion clinic bombers (let's not count bodies here). They're both extremists and radicals. If we get past the radicals to the middle ground, I have to think the liberals are less tolerant, based on the events of this day. Let's be honest here. Liberals want freedom, but they want to force someone to act against their religious beliefs.
Discrimination is the cry of the day. But, how is forcing someone to do something under penalty of law, freedom? How is holding the idea of a lawsuit over one's head to steer their actions fair?
I'll admit that the religious side has done some pretty intolerant stuff, but I have to say the liberals of today are the less-tolerant of the bunch. I feel like the liberal version of tolerance, today, is I'll be tolerant of your beliefs so long as they don't conflict with mine.
Some of the most tolerant and kind people I've ever met have been Christian. But fun fact, they weren't all die hard Republicans. Some people do this radical thing where their political views are determined through an issue by issue basis and not on 'well, I'm registered as X so they must be right about everything!' It's amazing. You should all try if you aren't already.
And that's my point. Of those Christians, I'd split them into 3 categories: conservative, progressive/liberal, and indifferent about politics all together.
There are varying degrees of tolerance in Christianity. Some are tolerant, others are not. This forum reflects that quite nicely. There's a good mix of fundamentalists (I call them idiots) and just regular Christians.
Liberals are similar. Some liberals are more intolerant, but they're simply intolerant of political view that differ from their own. There are conservatives who are exactly the same. That's the nature of political views. The farther in one direct you go, the less open you are to other ideas.
In fact, that's how all things work.
So, here's a challenge, anyone can participate: name one person who was literal minded who was ALSO intelligent.
There aren't many. Why? Intelligent people are open minded. They are welcoming to opposition and look to a challenge to justify their views, and once bested, they admit their wrong and reassess their opinions. They certainly don't buy into party politics, which are obviously BS.
You're especially silent when your leaders do things like accuse Mitt Romney of not paying taxes.
There's no need to get all worked up by what the media reports as hot news, just wait awhile and the truth will eventually pan out.
That's why I usually remain silent.
Speaking only for myself.
Based on what you've written here, I don't think you do.
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You say your not advocating Discrimination, but are more than willing to
allow it, because in your mind, its not the same thing. I get it.
.................................................. .................................................. .............. Discrimination: the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex
Freedom: the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint
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I am not advocating discrimination, I am advocating for ones freedom to discriminate if they choose to do so. There's a difference. It's called free will. Free thought. Personally, I find discrimination abhorrent, but we live in a supposedly free society, which means we have a right to hold our own opinions, even if they're hate filled or bigoted.
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The businesses don't own the Town either, so they don't have the right to
dictate who they will or who they won't serve.
They don't, but they should. They are a private business.
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They don't just come in and drive a stake in the ground and run a free
Market Business.
Again, they don't, but they should be able to. Businesses should be able to operate with as little regulation from the government as possible.
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They are "Granted" a "PERMIT" to operate under the restriction of agreeing to
operate under the rules set forth for that privilege. Get it?
Sure, I get it. More regulation, bigger government, less freedom.
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No one gives a crap what they think, or say, and they can hate anyone they want,
but they can't force their beliefs on others by punishing them specifically for
what they deem to be sins.
No one is "punishing" anyone. No one is "forcing" their beliefs on anyone. If you don't like the way a certain business operates, don't use that business. Simple. They are a private business. You don't have a legal "Right" to utilize the services of a private business, with private owners, on private property.
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I also think its Hypocritical for one to claim to be a good devout
Christian, and claim that's why they are doing this, and claim to be people of
God, yet they are assuming his role by punishing their idea of sinners?
That's their prerogative. Their business will either flourish or bottom out based on the way they choose to run it. That is how it should be.
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Isn't that the job of your God?
I have no God. I'm an Atheist.
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They preach that God will be the judge, yet they are doing it themselves
and using Religion as an excuse. That's pretty pathetic. SO much for the "Faith"
they claim to have.
If you'll notice, I've been just as critical of religious people on this thread as anyone. I think it takes a great deal of ignorance to believe the way most religious people do. But again, I support freedom, and that means the freedom to be ignorant too.
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You're especially silent when your leaders do things like accuse Mitt Romney of not paying taxes.
What a bizarre comment, I've never addressed this issue at all that I recall. In fact I don't have an opinion on it and I have no idea by what you mean by my "leaders". Are you perhaps confusing me with someone else?
Like refusing to serve Gay people as punishment for not letting them "Force" their beliefs on Gays? That kind if Interjection??
Private business and government are two different things, you get that right? It's one thing for a private business with private owners to set their own policies as they see fit, it's quite another to pass laws that favor a certain religion or that discriminate against certain people. The government is by all people, and for all people. Private businesses, not so.
it depends. if it is a subject that goes against liberal thinking, then Christians are more tolerant. it if goes against what Christians believe is the truth, then liberals are more tolerant.
though overall, i would say that Christians are more tolerant, as for the most part, if they are losing an argument or an issue, they do not start calling a person racist, sexist, fascist, or a nazi in order to shut other people up like the liberals do.
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