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Old 04-05-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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Poor =/= On Welfare

No one is demonizing the poor. They're demonizing unproductive people who live off the sweat of the productive.

There's no shame in being poor, but being a mooch is another story.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:18 PM
 
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You're not making sense.

If you own a restaurant, there must be food on hand and it is perishable.

Just because he needs to buy groceries doesn't mean that is because the others were used thus he made a profit
If I'm selling a rib dinner in my restaurant for $12 and I need $4 in groceries to make it, I'm making $4 less profit on every dinner than if Uncle Sam were gifting me those groceries.

The perishability of the groceries has nothing to do with anything. If I buy $4 worth of groceries for my rib special and no one comes in, I'm out $4 from my pocket. If, on the other hand, Uncle Sam gifted me the groceries, I can let them rot into dust and I'm not out anything at all.

What don't you understand? It's really not a complicated concept.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:20 PM
 
Location: California
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If he's on food stamps, his restaurant is not likely making much of a profit
He is only the front man, but who would eat that food in the first place.

One family member will own the restaurant while the rest of the family underwrite it with their food stamps and benefits while claiming no inocme. They do the same with our health care. One person has an income while the rest of the family claim to be in poverty while they live in exclusive neighborhoods.

It reminds me of the saying that there are 100 unseen rats for the one you do see.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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Poor =/= On Welfare

No one is demonizing the poor. They're demonizing unproductive people who live off the sweat of the productive.

There's no shame in being poor, but being a mooch is another story.
Yes. A truly poor wouldn't be wasting money like this.
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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If I'm selling a rib dinner in my restaurant for $12 and I need $4 in groceries to make it, I'm making $4 less profit on every dinner than if Uncle Sam were gifting me those groceries.

The perishability of the groceries has nothing to do with anything. If I buy $4 worth of groceries for my rib special and no one comes in, I'm out $4 from my pocket. If, on the other hand, Uncle Sam gifted me the groceries, I can let them rot into dust and I'm not out anything at all.

What don't you understand? It's really not a complicated concept.
I think the concept they can't understand is a thing called stupidity. Food stamp fraud is a stupid act. It benefits no one except the criminal committing the fraud.

Here is a concept, it's called obeying the law. For some it is a difficult concept until something of theirs is stolen, they are robbed or victimized and then they run to someone for help, as fast an their Florsheims can carry them.

You're right, no one is demonizing the poor, they manage to do that most often all by themselves.

Nothing wrong with being poor. There is something wrong with being content to be poor.
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Utah
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Did anyone ever explain how they are using their benefits on cruise ships?
My guess would be Mississippi River cruises, not ocean cruises. But that's just a guess.
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:36 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Don't see a problem with setting certain rules I suppose.

Kansas Bans Poor People From Spending Welfare On Cruise Ships

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Don't see a problem with setting certain rules I suppose.

Kansas Bans Poor People From Spending Welfare On Cruise Ships
I don't see a problem with the new law , but someone please tell me are the cruise ships moored at the Port of Kansas City Kansas or Wichita Kansas?
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:39 PM
 
Location: MA
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This is just like when the Government issued those several thousand dollar checks to low income people some years ago. Most of them went out and bought rims for their cars !

Priorities, ya know !


Don

Most of them bought rims for there cars? Really how do you know this? How many exactly bought rims?
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't see a problem with the new law , but someone please tell me are the cruise ships moored at the Port of Kansas City Kansas or Wichita Kansas?
All states are putting cruise ships in their laws because that is the wording of the Fed bill mandating the change to TANF money.
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:59 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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It was, indeed self-evident. I was trying to pay you the courtesy of explaining your position before I wrote you off as a moron.
It wasn't my post you were responding to.
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