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Old 04-06-2015, 12:12 AM
 
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Since ganja doesn't cause brain damage you believe he lied. OK.
Correct.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:20 AM
 
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Actually, it was the Bush administration that "removed" inspectors from Iraq.
The UN inspectors after repeated efforts to thwart their inspections were expelled by Iraq in the late 90's. They weren't allowed to return until 2002, they were only pulled shortly before the commencement of hostilities.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:25 AM
 
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The UN inspectors after repeated efforts to thwart their inspections were expelled by Iraq in the late 90's. They weren't allowed to return until 2002, they were only pulled shortly before the commencement of hostilities.
They were pulled because of the commencement of hostilities.

I was following right along with the administration until this moment. I remember Blix saying they had no evidence of WMD, and if the Bush admin. was determined to find WMD, that he needed more time. The inspectors were pulled, and bombs began dropping. It was this action by Bush that told me something wasn't right.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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They were pulled because of the commencement of hostilities.

I was following right along with the administration until this moment. I remember Blix saying they had no evidence of WMD, and if the Bush admin. was determined to find WMD, that he needed more time. The inspectors were pulled, and bombs began dropping. It was this action by Bush that told me something wasn't right.
I don't remember that. Can you give a link?

I remember reading the quote previously posted from Saddam's senior military officer who believed that he still had WMD right up to the end.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:47 AM
 
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I think it was obvious he knew about them, since we were the ones who gave them the ability to make them.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:48 AM
 
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I don't remember that. Can you give a link?

I remember reading the quote previously posted from Saddam's senior military officer who believed that he still had WMD right up to the end.
Here's a snippet. I'm sure you can find more info.

After playing a cat-and-mouse game with the Hussein regime, at the beginning of 2003 Blix reported to the U.N. that Iraq most probably neither possessed WMDs or the means to produce them and asked for more time to come up with a conclusive answer. However, the United States and its allies, most notably Britain, declared that they had had enough of Hussein’s shenanigans and decided to invade Iraq.

Iraq War 10 Years Later: Where Are They Now? Hans Blix (U.N. weapons inspector) - World News
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:51 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I wonder if right-wingers will ever be able to discern the difference between an airstrike and sending 150,000 under equipped U.S. troops into a guerrilla war and occupation of Iraq?

Further proof of the benefits of the Dumbing Down of America, and why it is both targeted and deliberate.
This, coming from you right after you openly admitted Iraq had WMDs as war veterans were exposed to chemical weapons?

Dumbed-down America? Yeah, I'd say so.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Not a good enough excuse to invade a country.
WMD were not the only reason for the invasion of Iraq.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:18 AM
 
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They were pulled because of the commencement of hostilities.

I was following right along with the administration until this moment. I remember Blix saying they had no evidence of WMD
Then you have a faulty memory.

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"I have mentioned the issue of anthrax to the Council on previous occasions and I come back to it as it is an important one.

Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres of this biological warfare agent, which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction.

There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
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"The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.

13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
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"Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December 2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which may be used for the Al Samoud 2 [missiles that deliver biological and chemical weapons]."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
Dr. Hans Blix Update to the UN Security Council, 27 January 2003

But frankly, I believe we should have nothing to do with the UN. So there's that...
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Old 04-06-2015, 02:18 AM
 
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Then you have a faulty memory.




Dr. Hans Blix Update to the UN Security Council, 27 January 2003

But frankly, I believe we should have nothing to do with the UN. So there's that...
Nope, my memory is not faulty one bit. The war began two months after the paper you cite was published. A lot happened in those two months, including Blix asking for more time; "months" as he put it. Bush was having none of it, and invaded anyway. My memory is crisp, regardless of any paper published two months before the invasion.

Here ya go. March 7th. A little more relevant to my points.

In a pivotal address to the UN Security Council, Mr. Blix also asked for more time to complete his work. "It will not take years, nor weeks, but months."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1158741/
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