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Old 04-05-2015, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Goinback2011 View Post
Right. All those demonstrations were completely spontaneous.
Prove they werent.



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They've been using the 'community organizer' method of regime change for awhile now.
What exactly is that ????

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Civil war in Syria. Muslim Brotherhood takes over Egypt (until the Saudis overthrow them). Fascists take over Ukraine. ISIS running amok in various places including Iraq and Libya. O had nothing to do with any of it, right?
The Military, which has for the most part always been in control of Egypt were the ones who got rid of the Brotherhood as they did not agree to form the government in a way that the people had wanted.

The Fascist didnt take over Ukraine.

And of course O didnt have anything to do with it, are you claiming he went to Africa and the middle east and told ISIS to do what they wanted ???


If Obots weren't so pathetic, they would be funny.[/quote]
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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Nothing you said address the point being made. Libya had been in a state of civil disobedience for almost 2 years before the arab spring started and it was the UN who imposed a no fly zone over Libya, and it was France who first flew planes over Libya. Us being involved, is not the same as us starting it.
It doesn't matter. We had no business getting involved. Blame the U.N. I do not care, Libya was ruled with an iron first but at least it was being ruled unlike now.

We had no business getting involved in Syria. We have no business still being in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You'll note I give Obama credit for not starting another war with Iran.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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It doesn't matter. We had no business getting involved. Blame the U.N. I do not care, Libya was ruled with an iron first but at least it was being ruled unlike now.

We had no business getting involved in Syria. We have no business still being in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You'll note I give Obama credit for not starting another war with Iran.
At least in the Cold War when we overthrew a government we installed a new one. A brutal, dictatorial government, but a government that at least gave the appearance that they were providing services. Man, those were the simple times.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's very relevant. If you tell me I screwed up it's one thing. If you tell me I lied it's quite another. I'll be willing to admit to the former if there is a scintilla of evidence, but I'll never admit to the latter without absolute proof, which you are unlikely to get.

I work under a contract. My contract stipulates that lying is a firing offense. Screwing up is not.
He did lie. "No more nation building"
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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Q: If Bush didn't lie, why did the U.S. stay almost a decade in Iraq AFTER it became clear that WMD were not found and Saddam himself executed.
(I guess if we left Iraq in 2004, very few would talk about it today).
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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He did lie. "No more nation building"
There has been no nation building....just nation destroying.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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There has been no nation building....just nation destroying.
while squandering trillions of dollars, just like Republicans want to do in Iran.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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There has been no nation building....just nation destroying.
well, we tried to nation build, the money just kept disapearing, LOL
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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It doesn't matter. We had no business getting involved. Blame the U.N. I do not care, Libya was ruled with an iron first but at least it was being ruled unlike now.

We had no business getting involved in Syria. We have no business still being in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You'll note I give Obama credit for not starting another war with Iran.
It does matter, i wasnt responding to comment about us simply being involved, the premise was us starting it and we didnt.

context matters.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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while squandering trillions of dollars, just like Republicans want to do in Iran.
I don't disagree.
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