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Old 01-15-2008, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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There was a thread on lethal injection that discussed whether lethal injection was humane or not. I'm not looking to debate anyone, my views on the death penalty are multifaceted (not a simple yes/no), I was just curious about DP supporters' opinion on where the line between permissible and impermissible suffering is passed.

1. What do you think is the best method to use?
2. What methods do you think are acceptable constitutionally?
3. What methods do you think are right to use (may be either broader or more narrow than your answer to 2)?

 
Old 01-15-2008, 06:00 PM
 
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1. guillotine

2. lethal injection, electrocution, gas chamber, guillotine, firing squad, single shot, hanging

3. guillotine and single shot.
 
Old 01-15-2008, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Boise
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1. carbon monoxide poisoning (used by Dr. Kevorkian and supposedly quite peaceful)
2. not a constitutional scholar, so I'll just trust what's already legal
3. none
 
Old 01-15-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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Best? Anything that kills someone dead works for me...you're just as dead from a bullet as from an injection.

Constitutional? I'll let Constitutional scholars sort that out...the term "cruel and unusual" is rather vague.

Right to use? See my answer to #1.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 04:18 AM
 
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(1). Single, inexpensive BULLET to the head (.50 cal perhaps)

(2). WHAT IS Constitutional anymore?

(3). Not cruel......but unusual maybe? Make another reality show of it.
FOX would LOVE the ratings and it would be far more entertaining than American Idol.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Long ladder and short rope in a public setting. Simple cheap and reusable. Leave the gallows in place as a reminder that there are some really serious crimes.

Circular firing squad (everyone stands in a circle and shoots at the criminal in the middle) for corrupt neocon politicians/lobbyists/business executives. Execution by their peers with automatic weapons.

Seriously I think that there are some humans that a civilization cannot afford to leave alive. They must be executed. Child molesters, corrupt politicians, drug runners, nut cake bombers, real terrorists, etc.

My only objection to execution is the irreversibility when the system screws up and kills an innocent person. In that light I propose an Office of the High Executioner that will reinvestigate all capital crime to provide assurance that the person being killed is actually guilty and not another victim of incompetence or a well-built frame-up.

Sorry for the sentence fragments.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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1. Anything quick and painless.

2. On one hand, the Fifth Amendment says nobody shall be deprived of LIFE, liberty, or property without due process of law, so the Constitution clearly seems to allow for capital punishment. But on the other hand, the Eighth Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. In the end, I think you have to revert back to #1.

3. None. Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 06:56 AM
 
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1. Lethal injection (I never understood why they use three drugs, why not either just give them an overdose of morphine or some other pain killer) and the electric chair if done right.

2. I am not a legal scholar, so I unfortunately I cannot get too much into the Constitutional validity of capital punishment, but the Founding Fathers did mention capital offenses in the Constitution, so obviously they were at least open to the idea of the death penalty.

3. See #1.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 08:35 PM
 
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1. Simultaneous execution via gallows.
2. Anything thats quick (less than a minute of pain).
3. First priority is the taxpayer... so its got to be cheap, then comes the comfort of the condemned.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 08:56 PM
 
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1. Simultaneous execution via gallows.
2. Anything thats quick (less than a minute of pain).
3. First priority is the taxpayer... so its got to be cheap, then comes the comfort of the condemned.
All methods of execution are pretty cheap, a lethal injection costs less than $200, the electricity used for the electric chair is probably less than a light bulb being on for a few hours, the cyanide is pretty cheap for gas chambers, rope is cheap, a bullet is cheap, etc.

Capital punishment is expensive because of the appeals system and other legal requirements that at least in theory try to make it less likely an innocent is executed.
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