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Old 04-06-2015, 01:15 AM
 
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So was Clyde Drexler.
Drexler was a bonafide superstar at Houston. That's not the same thing. Everyone knew he was gonna be great at the next level.

The Harrisons are pretty damn good players, but they aren't Clyde Drexler.
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Originally Posted by chicagogeorge View Post
That player is just low class ghetto, like most basketball players these days (college and pro). They really have to stop scooping them up from the hood, and if they do, give em a crash course in etiquette. If I used the word N word on this forum, how fast would I get banned?


Kentucky U should take immediate disciplinary action
Andrew Harrison isn't from the hood or any ghetto. He's from a very well off family in Richmond, Texas.
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If he had been white; he would be gone. In this case even the media are making excuses.
Nonsense. It would be the equivalent of a white player calling a black player a cracker. Most people would just laugh their asses off and be done with it.

 
Old 04-06-2015, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska (South Central Region)
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I do not condone the usage of this word to anyone. I don't use it, or any of my friends (which include white, black, and others). I do not see why people need to use the word in the first place. The media portrays that mostly all of the blacks use it, but I don't. Why can't people just use man, bro, bruh, brutha, or guy instead of it?

Why would I want to call myself something that racists would call me? Yeah it doesn't have the same meaning, but out of respect for people who fought to not have that word said, I wonder what they would think, looking down on us using that word. "I worked my butt off for this word to not be said to my people. And now my people use it as an everyday term." I think the word is degrading, once any person uses this word, they just look unworthy. You can't tell some white people not to call you that, when you call yourself that...Know what I mean? But hey, that's just me.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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I do not condone the usage of this word to anyone. I don't use it, or any of my friends (which include white, black, and others). I do not see why people need to use the word in the first place. The media portrays that mostly all of the blacks use it, but I don't. Why can't people just use man, bro, bruh, brutha, or guy instead of it?

Why would I want to call myself something that racists would call me? Yeah it doesn't have the same meaning, but out of respect for people who fought to not have that word said, I wonder what they would think, looking down on us using that word. "I worked my butt off for this word to not be said to my people. And now my people use it as an everyday term." I think the word is degrading, once any person uses this word, they just look unworthy. You can't tell some white people not to call you that, when you call yourself that...Know what I mean? But hey, that's just me.
The word will go its own way in an organic fashion. It can't and won't be just willed away because certain people don't like its usage. It'll be around as long as people like using it. Eventually, it may go out of usage completely or simply have an attenuated usage back to how it was used when I was a kid....When you were a little surprised and amused when you heard it. It was very much an adult word back then. Kids NEVER said it...not even to each other.

There are hundreds of English words that rarely if ever get used. That's language for you. It's fluid....words come in and out of the lexicon.

As to who can and white can't say it....That's another topic.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 10:02 AM
 
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I'm as white as ghost. Black people have called me "*****" before. It's not uncommon in the hood.
I admit. I don't know what it means when Harrison or another black guy, in or out of the hood, says, 'F that nword,' about a white guy.

I assume Harrison meant it as an insult. If he said, 'Kaminsky plays like one of us nwords.' is it a compliment ? Does it matter if the word ends with an 'a' vs an 'er.'

Though a press conference isn't a dumb place to use the word, I'll bet Kaminsky's heard it plenty of times and his reaction to hearing the story was more like 'he's mad we beat them' than 'OMG, he called me the n word.'
 
Old 04-06-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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Andrew Harrison isn't from the hood or any ghetto. He's from a very well off family in Richmond, Texas.
Correct on his family status.

Being ghetto is more a mindset and mentality.

You can be poor and carry yourself without the ghetto mindset. You can be rich and be totally ghetto.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Correct on his family status.

Being ghetto is more a mindset and mentality.

You can be poor and carry yourself without the ghetto mindset. You can be rich and be totally ghetto.
Fair enough. But the kid isn't ghetto. He's a kid. Nothing more or less.

He used a dumb expletive around a hot Mic and got caught.

I use the word too...and I'm far from ghetto. You just have to be more sagacious if you're gonna say it. Definitely not in that setting.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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I admit. I don't know what it means when Harrison or another black guy, in or out of the hood, says, 'F that nword,' about a white guy.

I assume Harrison meant it as an insult. If he said, 'Kaminsky plays like one of us nwords.' is it a compliment ? Does it matter if the word ends with an 'a' vs an 'er.'

Though a press conference isn't a dumb place to use the word, I'll bet Kaminsky's heard it plenty of times and his reaction to hearing the story was more like 'he's mad we beat them' than 'OMG, he called me the n word.'
His use of the word in reference to a white guy makes it abundantly clear that he didn't mean ANYTHING racial. He's of the generation that doesn't specify race when using the word. They could be talking about someone from China and they'll use it. I've seen it plenty of times.

Keep in mind that Harrison didn't know his Mic was hot...he wouldn't have said it if he'd known that.

This is the equivalent of Kaminsky calling Harrison a cracker. That's ridiculous, but hardly anything to get angry about. People would laugh at the absurdity of it, Harrison would laugh his ass off, and we'd be done with it.

This isn't the Big deal that folks are making out to be.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Correct on his family status.

Being ghetto is more a mindset and mentality.

You can be poor and carry yourself without the ghetto mindset. You can be rich and be totally ghetto.
Well said.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: NJ
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...055802601.html

I am sure this won't go over well. However, it was a black player saying "**** that ******" about a white player. Will it hurt his draft stock? Will he be forced to undergo counseling? Will the school suspend him?
proves the banned word that starts with an N has universal application.

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Old 04-06-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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If the white player would have Said the N word to the Black player it would be a nacional front page news and the liberals calling for the head of the Coach for not suspendíng the player or kicking him out the team......a boycott of the school.


Black player does it , its all cool.....its a Black culture thing......lol
Of course Kaminsky can't call Harrison the same word. That would be ridiculous.

The equivalent of what Harrison did is Kaminsky calling Harrison a derogatory term for white folks.

When thought of in that context, its easy to see how ridiculous this controversy is.

Slap the kid on the head and be done with it.
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We are caught between two worlds. In my generation the word was universally offensive, applied to blacks only, and only used by truly ignorant people. Now it is a word often used to describe pretty much anyone and often not meant to be offensive. I can't see punishing anyone for calling a white man by the n-word.
Finally...someone on this thread gets it.

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