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Old 04-05-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I agree, for the most part.

Government exists for the purpose of leveling the free market playing field. Without regulation, the producers will always have the advantage over the consumers. The ideologues will whine and moan and complain, but they are wrong. Without regulation, the sellers, the producers, the employers, will take advantage of the consumers, the buyers, the employees. There should be balance aka a level playing field.
Government exists to control the playing field not level it. They get to hand pick the winners and losers.
The producers and employers take advantage? Says who? A quality peoduct for a fair price is the trade off between consumer and producer. If the price is too high or the quality too low the consumer will go elsewhere. That's basic business
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:29 PM
 
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Bad for the fingerlings.

Don't matter anyway, with GMO we got salmon the size of sharks, now.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:05 PM
 
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The government has done that for decades; federal; state and local. That was the real down fall in Greece that got way out of hand .I am not sure what you do as so many lack any 21st century skills.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:31 PM
 
Location: NC
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At no point did I say that there should be zero regulation, I said that there should be less regulation. Our business environment is filled with bureaucratic red tape, and as someone who used to run a small business I can tell you that a lot of it is wasted paper. What we currently have is an environment which makes it fairly difficult to start a small business, and extremely difficult to go from a small business to a big (aka job creating) business.
I agree with this, and said so in my post. My point is that it is only half of the picture. LESS regulation would be good for honest businesses to thrive. The evidence is absolutely clear. But at the same time, MORE regulation is clearly needed for some, which is evident by the examples I gave.

My point is that this subject, like most subjects, is not driven by a single variable. It is more complicated, and can't be answered with a simpleton soundbite.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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I've seen government created jobs up close and personal in NYC a few decades ago. The jobs created were a total waste of tax payer dollars.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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I've seen government created jobs up close and personal in NYC a few decades ago. The jobs created were a total waste of tax payer dollars.
What jobs were those?
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:49 PM
 
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The government should not be in the business of creating jobs, ever. The only thing which the government should be responsible for is creating an environment where job creation is not only possible but easily achievable. This means less taxation, less regulation, and less demonizing of the "rich". Unfortunately, we aren't likely to see such an environment again in the near future, as the hatred of successful business owners seems to have become an ingrained attitude among the majority of the voting public.
Yep, I agree. For those who don't agree, think of it this way.

Take a ride through government housing, it isn't pretty. Government does a POOR job at housing the poor. The government doesn't want to be a landlord so what does it do. It encourages people to invest in rental property through tax deductions, lowering taxes for real estate investors. In other words creating an environment where people want to invest. The same can be true for business and job creation. The Obama administration is anti-business and pro big government. In other words, they are discouraging investment, steering us toward government run projects.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Yep, I agree. For those who don't agree, think of it this way.

Take a ride through government housing, it isn't pretty. Government does a POOR job at housing the poor. The government doesn't want to be a landlord so what does it do. It encourages people to invest in rental property through tax deductions, lowering taxes for real estate investors. In other words creating an environment where people want to invest. The same can be true for business and job creation. The Obama administration is anti-business and pro big government. In other words, they are discouraging investment, steering us toward government run projects.
Since the NYSE is at record levels, it appears no one has been discouraged from investing.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:51 PM
 
Location: NC
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To answer the earlier question:

The Eisenhower Interestate System was completed by Gov't created jobs, and absolutely has benefited our economy many times over. Same can be said for 'some' of the new deal jobs. Many of the New Deal programs were critical to our national security (example: Blue Ridge Parkway). They created jobs, left us with some benefits, and filled a need. Another, although it also has many problems too (again, the multi-variable thing) is the TVA.
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