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Old 04-06-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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12 states already had laws that sought to prohibit the use of ATM cards at liqueur stores, casinos and strip clubs by the time Congress approved this.

Nothing precludes anyone from using an EBT card at any ATM that accepts the card. If a card holder wants to avoid detection, nothing precludes them from cashing out at an ATM not affiliated with a liquer stores, casino or strip club and then using cash, anywhere.

Most have read that some will sell their EBT cards at a steep discount and use the proceeds to buy dope. Makes no sense to me that anyone would do this given they can obtain 100% cash value ( less a processing fee) at any ATM- no questions asked. It's like giving away half your stash. Who does this?

As for cruise ships ATMs......... This typically happens on 2-3 day dirt cheap "booze cruises " departing from Miami. Again, nothing precludes anyone from using an ATM before they board.

EBT cards have a "cash" component and a "food" component. TANF recipients get "cash" in addition to "food" (SNAP). SNAP-but-not-TANF recipients get "food" but not "cash".

So the majority of EBT users can't get cash from an ATM.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Also love how someone could be in a "family unit", have their fellow family unit member be convicted of theft, and then be permanently ineligible. Thats just awesome. nothing bad will happen there right?


Love it too. It puts peer pressure on the offender. Put them out and they will not be the family unit any longer. The family unit will hold them accountable, since they would be an accessory and beneficiary to the crime.

They could always move to another state and suck their system dry.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:24 PM
 
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Let's apply some 5th Grade Math and find out.

$800 Tattoo
$25 daily withdrawal of my money by a Welfare Puke

$800 / $25 = 32 days for the Welfare Puke to save up my money to buy a tattoo.

And it is my money, stolen out of my pocket by people like you.


Carbonated beverages are just another one of Life's Entitlements....

Mircea

OMG, is that what a tattoo costs? That's just nuts, and so is the person who spends $800 on a tattoo.

One of my aspirations in life is to liberate the masses from Big Soda by bringing them Home Carbonation.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:41 PM
 
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So they don't know how to balance a checkbook. Imagine that.

I have a guess, but since I'm neither a banker nor a lender, I don't have access to the relevant data.

Payday loans are not sustainable, and many borrowers take 10 or more loans in a year. Some of them pay off their loans and some default. The defaulters invariably end up with negative checking balances and closed accounts. This lands them on the Chex Systems blacklist where no bank will touch them for five years.

Taking out the payday loans was a desperation move to buy time to balance their checkbook, not a math failure.
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Old 04-06-2015, 10:15 PM
 
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I'd love to see this in Illinois. I've seen so many abuse the system, like buy radios using a Link Card then pulling out wads of cash, or people driving nicer cars than me.
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Old 04-06-2015, 10:32 PM
 
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I'd love to see this in Illinois. I've seen so many abuse the system, like buy radios using a Link Card then pulling out wads of cash, or people driving nicer cars than me.
The only place I have seen that is next to the local AFB where 20 year old kids are paid $59,000 a year to flip burgers and then drive recklessly around town stacking up their cars before they are a year old. That's the Republican version of welfare.
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Old 04-06-2015, 10:46 PM
 
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Any stats to indicate the "vast majority" are paying part of their rent with TANF money?
Or is that your OPINION ?
Hmmm Opinion, backed up by common sense.

and.....heres some facts:
Spending patterns of families receiving means-tested government assistance : Beyond the Numbers: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

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Average total expenditures of families receiving means-tested assistance were less than half those of families not receiving assistance.
For families receiving assistance, food, housing, and transportation accounted for 77.0 percent of the family budget, compared with 65.5 percent of the budget of families not receiving assistance.
So yes.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:55 AM
 
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Payday loans are not sustainable, and many borrowers take 10 or more loans in a year. Some of them pay off their loans and some default. The defaulters invariably end up with negative checking balances and closed accounts. This lands them on the Chex Systems blacklist where no bank will touch them for five years.

Taking out the payday loans was a desperation move to buy time to balance their checkbook, not a math failure.
I've never used Payday loans, they are high? Just think, those who do pay off the loans are actually paying higher fees for the borrowers that don't pay back their loans.

Of course the best thing is to live below your means to avoid bouncing checks and having to use Payday loans. Yea, there is nothing like throwing money away.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:58 AM
 
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Kansas wants to create more homeless people when their TANF is cut off which in turn leads to increase in crime in turn leads to more in prison which I am sure the Koch's will ensure get sent to some of their fancy private prisons....
No, Kansas wants people to get jobs,.. pay their own way and stop abusing the taxpayer, people who work, sometimes 2 jobs to support their own families but are forced to help support people on welfare too.
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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bringing them Home Carbonation.
I have a home carbonation set up, it's pretty cool.
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