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What does that have to do with Universal Health Care?
I don't just believe it, I know it. Republicans arguing against Universal Health Care are one of the two:
1) Misinformed because they have been fed lies by hatriot radio and right-wing news outlets
2) Psychopaths that just really think poor people should just go away and die
Because contrary to your delusions, we can't just print money indefinitely.
Liberals in America always make reference to those great utopias like Canada, the UK, Germany et al and their great social benefits. What they don't want is the regressive tax structure needed to fund those programs.
You can go back a few thousand posts and see my position. Kill the ACA. Pass a basic universal national health program funded by a payroll tax no different than FICA. Everyone pays. Everyone. Slowly phase in the program so that basic and routine care is a given. Like Germany, the secondary insurance market can stop-gap on the other end.
End the nonsense ER visits. Force non-citizens to pay for their care.
The ACA is just welfare. Almost all the participants are on expanded Medicare getting huge subsidies at the expense of the middle class. I'm well off and if I have to pay a little more, it isn't going to kill me, but you need to pay your fair share also. Got it?
Because contrary to your delusions, we can't just print money indefinitely.
Actually, we can.
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Liberals in America always make reference to those great utopias like Canada, the UK, Germany et al and their great social benefits. What they don't want is the regressive tax structure needed to fund those programs.
But here you are not being specific. Canada and the UK are monetarily sovereign; they don't need any tax dollars to fund their social benefits. Germany is not monetarily sovereign, it uses the Euro. The United States is monetarily sovereign, yet Germany is not. How is a country that actually is bound by the limits of taxation willing to offer national health benefits for its citizens but we don't? It's time we changed our priorities.
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Originally Posted by TrapperJohn
You can go back a few thousand posts and see my position. Kill the ACA. Pass a basic universal national health program funded by a payroll tax no different than FICA. Everyone pays. Everyone. Slowly phase in the program so that basic and routine care is a given. Like Germany, the secondary insurance market can stop-gap on the other end.
FICA is the most regressive tax in the tax code. FICA is completely unnecessary. We could eliminate FICA tomorrow and it wouldn't have any affect on SS. Why would you advocate this?
You have been duped by the 1%.
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End the nonsense ER visits. Force non-citizens to pay for their care.
There's no reason for this to be done. Only the immoral would suggest non-citizens to pay up or die. What do we know about Federal Spending?
The Federal government does not require any "payment" or "taxes" to fund services.
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Originally Posted by TrapperJohn
The ACA is just welfare. Almost all the participants are on expanded Medicare getting huge subsidies at the expense of the middle class. I'm well off and if I have to pay a little more, it isn't going to kill me, but you need to pay your fair share also. Got it?
Yes, but it isn't the kind of welfare you want. ACA is a mixture of welfare and corporate welfare. We want it to just be welfare. Welfare is the government's job. The government is supposed to issue services for its citizens.
One again, you are still operating under the naive assumption that my benefits come out of your paycheck. That simply isn't true. It's amusing to see it as a catalyst for insatiable greed.
Why have you called for higher taxes in the rich? Why even use the term 1%'ers? According to you it doesn't matter who makes what or pays what because we can just print and spend. Why did the liberals, who had the House, Senate and the WH pass the ACA when they could have just made everyone a billionaire with the click of a mouse?
There is no easy way to tell hard working poor and middle class Americans that they have to pay for other people's health care when they cannot even afford to pay for their own.
I'll go back to a moral country where the government does not steal from hard working poor people to help lazy people who refuse to take care of themselves.
A guy can dream, right?
Back in 1988, Michigan voters passed an initiative to end Medicaid funding of elective abortions. I asked opponents why I should pay for elective procedures when I couldn't afford basic necessary care. They had no answer.
Why have you called for higher taxes in the rich? Why even use the term 1%'ers? According to you it doesn't matter who makes what or pays what because we can just print and spend. Why did the liberals, who had the House, Senate and the WH pass the ACA when they could have just made everyone a billionaire with the click of a mouse?
What did we say is the purpose of taxation?
(that should answer your question on why higher taxes on the rich)
They are arguing to greatly expand the military while doing absolutely nothing for the people in this country so I would have to answer yes, the Republicans believe that.
So if people aren't wanting to fund the programs that you want funded that means they are doing absolutely nothing for the people in this country.
I guess you really do see things in a simpleminded way. Everyone either agrees with you or else they are evil.
Democratic lawmakers passed a law without reading what was in it, and one with major, basic flaws. And somehow Republican governors are to blame? Nice try, but even the public isn't that stupid.
Maybe they will ask Nancy and company just why they voted for something without knowing what was in it.
while Walker himself wouldn’t emphasize this, his plan is built upon Obamacare. As he explained to Milwaukee Public Radio in 2013, the law’s subsidies are what allow him to move the transitioners off of Medicaid without leaving them no access to insurance:
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