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Old 04-13-2015, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Not really.

I fully understand "make no law" "prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

First Amendment. Plain as day.
Why would someone running a business welcome to the public think that's a splendid way to go about practicing religion?

 
Old 04-13-2015, 11:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why would someone running a business welcome to the public think that's a splendid way to go about practicing religion?
Not everyone is blinded by the pursuit of the "almighty dollar." Some people choose to live their lives guided by their conscience. Some religions and/or denominations thereof prohibit same sex marriage, so there you go.

Isn't that exactly what liberals want? People running businesses based on their conscience instead of the pursuit of pure profit?
 
Old 04-13-2015, 11:58 AM
 
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Not really.

I fully understand "make no law" "prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

First Amendment. Plain as day.

So plain as day there's over 200 years of case law history, disagreement among con-law scholars, etc. all discussing what the first amendment actually means and covers.


Plain as day.

 
Old 04-13-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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Isn't that exactly what liberals want? People running businesses based on their conscience instead of the pursuit of pure profit?

Yes. Within the confines of the/a law that says if you provide a public accommodation you cannot discriminate based on innate characteristics of your customers.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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No guy in his right mind immediately jumps to thinking about dudes engaging in anal sex on the topic of equality for homosexuals and the issue of human expressions of sexuality.



No guy. In their right mind. Maybe some self-reflection is in order.
A regular guy would say the above is just homo-babble talk. Be as homo as you want but do not think for one second you are a regular guy or even think like one. Maybe a mixture of women and guy. I do not know and do not care only know guy **** in guy anal cavity or mouth is abnormal. No reason to provide protected status to aberrations of nature.

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Old 04-13-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Have you ever heard what a woman with a strap on can do with a guy? Or is that fine and normal, since it's a heterosexual act?
Not the topic here.Start a separate thread if you want and see if anyone is interested which I doubt.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So plain as day there's over 200 years of case law history, disagreement among con-law scholars, etc. all discussing what the first amendment actually means and covers.
Look to the Hobby Lobby ruling for guidance. SCOTUS determined HL had a valid religious objection:

"The Court’s "narrow function . . . is to determine" whether the plaintiffs’ asserted religious belief reflects"an honest conviction,"

Refusing to bake wedding cakes or cater, etc., for any and all same sex marriages is an honest conviction. That withstands SCOTUS's conviction test.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 12:13 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yes. Within the confines of the/a law that says if you provide a public accommodation you cannot discriminate based on innate characteristics of your customers.
You missed this part:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

First Amendment. Plain as day.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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No guy in his right mind thinks it is normal to stick his **** inside another guy. Period.

No on mentioned the Bible except you. Are you a lesbo?
Some guys do not wish to engage in such activities. That does not mean that those who do are abnormal.

The basis for those who consider homosexuality to be a sin, as opposed to a set of behaviors that they find icky, is the Bible, I believe. Do you have another source for the religious rejection of homosexuality?

Your question is offensive because it implies that a heterosexual cannot possibly believe that homosexuals are not abnormal, just different. However, for the record I am female, married to the same man for 44 years come September, and the mother of two sons.

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Old 04-13-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Nobody mentioned sin except you and the other person defending homos and the statement "some guys" needs to be scrutinized to see what that means to you. Homos most likely.

My statement is only offensive to those who believe being a homo is seen as normal and dislike being challenged by reality.
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